Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.

[Brian Roselle]

Steve, Thanks for posting that Hughes clip.  I'll look over it repeatedly to see if I can discern anything notable.

I'm with you, it was really bad luck the filming stopped when it did. Just a few more seconds and we would likely have answers to a whole slew of questions.

I had a chance to look at the Hughes film here and also the version on Max Holland's National Geographic show.

It looked like there might be motion but all I could make out was basically a blob. I could not get resolution of a person or a body position. If only we had a few more seconds of film.

On the Max Holland show, he also was trying some sniper shot modeling and positioning using a 6th floor window replication.  It was filmed patchy with respect to the order of the shots but I tried to cut, order and paste the first shot, second shot and third shot positions that he was looking at. The patched together version is at the link here with the three shots added over an ~10 second duration. It starts with a rifle bang right as the first shot was fired and the sniper begins to grab the bolt action getting ready for a second shot. The second shot is ~5 seconds after the first and then the video shifts to be behind the sniper as he cocks for the third shot ~5 seconds later. The pauses in the sniper’s motion after the shots would represent the time the sniper would use to reposition the rifle and aim for the next shot. Again, this is just juxtaposing some of Holland's video snippets in order with gunfire sound for a slightly longer than 10 second shooting duration, which didn't appear that unreasonable.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15Yrbfx0ic3IXXfAhGqiAiIotHC-G3J7s/view?usp=sharing

[Charles Collins]

I had a chance to look at the Hughes film here and also the version on Max Holland's National Geographic show.

It looked like there might be motion but all I could make out was basically a blob. I could not get resolution of a person or a body position. If only we had a few more seconds of film.

On the Max Holland show, he also was trying some sniper shot modeling and positioning using a 6th floor window replication.  It was filmed patchy with respect to the order of the shots but I tried to cut, order and paste the first shot, second shot and third shot positions that he was looking at. The patched together version is at the link here with the three shots added over an ~10 second duration. It starts with a rifle bang right as the first shot was fired and the sniper begins to grab the bolt action getting ready for a second shot. The second shot is ~5 seconds after the first and then the video shifts to be behind the sniper as he cocks for the third shot ~5 seconds later. The pauses in the sniper’s motion after the shots would represent the time the sniper would use to reposition the rifle and aim for the next shot. Again, this is just juxtaposing some of Holland's video snippets in order with gunfire sound for a slightly longer than 10 second shooting duration, which didn't appear that unreasonable.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15Yrbfx0ic3IXXfAhGqiAiIotHC-G3J7s/view?usp=sharing

Thanks for the link to the video Brian. Nice work. You say you saw what might be some movement that you describe as a blob. Could you discern where specifically in the window you think you saw this?

[Royell Storing]

   As if Holland lengthening the firing time to over 10 seconds, and being forced to move the physical position of the JFK Limo on Elm St wasn't enough, now we have the shooter taking 3 different physical positions when firing each of the 3 shots shots. 

[Tom Mahon]

As if Holland lengthening the firing time to over 10 seconds and being forced to move the physical position of the JFK Limo on Elm St wasn't enough, now we have the shooter taking 3 different physical positions when firing each of the 3 shots.

Two positions sufficed: standing and awkwardly leaning forward for his first, missing-everything, shot at "Z-124," and kneeling and resting his left elbow on the top box for his second and third shots.

[Brian Roselle]

Thanks for the link to the video Brian. Nice work. You say you saw what might be some movement that you describe as a blob. Could you discern where specifically in the window you think you saw this?

I went back and looked at the Holland version again since he said it was the highest resolution to date.

I would not be able to say with certainty I saw a person, that's for sure. I think any motion I was looking at would have been just above where the box edge was sticking up (presumably that was the outer box that was fairly bright), where something looked to be near, or just above the window cross bar, slightly above that brighter box rest. There seemed to be some change in light background intensity around there and I don't know if that was motion or if could be some variation in illumination of stacked boxes in the background that varied with the lighting or "pixel noise" that others have talked about, I don't know, but the blob seemed to be more centered and above the box at the ledge, and not right at either edge of the window.  Could having the limo being further around to the left relative to the window case at that time, while turning in the intersection and harder to continuously track at that time cause Oswald to temporarily lean right or move further west behind the rifle rest boxes and position him for better viewing in a standing or crouching position that morphed into a first shot position, I have no idea.

Bottom line is I don't think I can add anything to help you out on this question. Sorry, I wish I could.

[Brian Roselle]

   As if Holland lengthening the firing time to over 10 seconds, and being forced to move the physical position of the JFK Limo on Elm St wasn't enough, now we have the shooter taking 3 different physical positions when firing each of the 3 shots shots. 

I think its basically just two positions, you may be counting the cameraman's change in position if referring to Hollands video clips. I guess an easier solution would be Josiah Thompson's of having three shooters at three different positions.

[Royell Storing]

I think its basically just two positions, you may be counting the cameraman's change in position if referring to Hollands video clips. I guess an easier solution would be Josiah Thompson's of having three shooters at three different positions.

   Look at that link again. 3 positions. The 3rd shot does Not have the rifle resting on the box.  In fact, the window looks to be open wider on that 3rd shot too. This explains why Slapsy Maxy spaced his 3 shots visual aid. He knew it does Not work. And then there's the No Scope issue. You know something went haywire with the scope attached to the rifle. From start to finish, the Holland Theory is all smoke-n-mirrors.   

[Royell Storing]

I think its basically just two positions, you may be counting the cameraman's change in position if referring to Hollands video clips. I guess an easier solution would be Josiah Thompson's of having three shooters at three different positions.

  Mmmmm??  You do know that "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" had a 3 shooter scenario? 1 in front, and 2 behind. 1 of the shooters from behind, "almost on the horizontal".