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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #312 on: January 25, 2025, 12:54:35 AM »
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I would put the beginning of Wiegman a bit later based on the Mark Tyler animation (Motorcade 63).  Here is the first frame of Wiegman:



Mark Tyler's suggests that frame z280-81 corresponds to the position in which cars 11 (Cabell), 12 (Nat. Press) and 13 (Camera car 1) are at or very close to the positions shown at the beginning of Wiegman:



Thanks, that’s interesting. However it appears to me that, in his handbook, page 17,  Mark Tyler explains that this is just a rough estimate. Here’s a quote:

4.3.3 Zapruder & Wiegman
Circa Z447 (see appendix E.11) is a very interesting point in the
animation as it roughly synchronizes the Wiegman film with the
Zapruder film.

And this is from appendix E.11:





I believe that Dale Myers’ methodology is considerably more involved and exact. I certainly don’t remember all the details but he did document his methodology very well. Take a look for yourself if it interests you.
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« Reply #313 on: January 25, 2025, 04:15:11 AM »

 Congrats you guys on using the Wiegman Film to prove a 2nd Shooter.  Thumb1:

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #314 on: January 25, 2025, 03:29:31 PM »
Question about the Darnell film. Is there anything in the record about the cop who is seen running on that extension street away from the DB entrance? Not Baker with the helmet but the other one? I'm sure there's nothing significant about it but am just curious.

Also, I know the hope is to someday get a pristine copy of that footage but the current copy on YTV is pretty clear so I can't imagine a pristine copy will make a difference. Speculating, with all I know about the case, I do believe there's a possibility that it's LHO in the doorway standing up there on the left.

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« Reply #315 on: January 25, 2025, 03:58:20 PM »
Question about the Darnell film. Is there anything in the record about the cop who is seen running on that extension street away from the DB entrance? Not Baker with the helmet but the other one? I'm sure there's nothing significant about it but am just curious.

Also, I know the hope is to someday get a pristine copy of that footage but the current copy on YTV is pretty clear so I can't imagine a pristine copy will make a difference. Speculating, with all I know about the case, I do believe there's a possibility that it's LHO in the doorway standing up there on the left.

   That's DPD Officer Joe Marshall Smith. He gave WC Testimony. You can also see him running back there on the Couch Film. You Tube in the last several months posted the first 0:44 seconds of the Darnell Film. This :44 seconds is part of the Original Darnell Film that NBC has been hording since 11/22/63. If you haven't watched it, search -  "NBC 5 Archive Collection | Assassination Aftermath in Dealey Plaza | Darnell Film"   by - SixthFloorMuseum.  This :44 is extremely clear/sharp. Officer Smith is the same cop that ran into that guy inside the parking lot behind the picket fence. This guy dressed in civi's flashed a CIA/FBI ID when confronted by Smith. Even though no CIA/FBI men were supposed to be on the ground there inside Dealey Plaza. I am waiting for the remainder of the NBC Darnell Film to be made public. I want to see the footage from inside the railroad yard and also the images he filmed between the N-S Picket Fence and the "little brick wall" as DPD Motorcycle Officer Hargis tabbed it.
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« Reply #316 on: January 25, 2025, 04:32:22 PM »
Great reply, thanks. Yeah, just saw that footage and it is clear. And yeah, I remember that story about the flashing fake badges. No one ever really has a good answer for that. Why would a cop like that lie? He didn't and submitted his report as is. A lot of folks are always looking for the "big reveal" in this case but you don't need to find those big reveals. This is a perfect example of just flashing a badge here and there a diversion, then fading into the crowd and it's over and done with.

I know LHO didn't do it and I also know that the rear shots came from that other building and from somewhere on the hill. And nothing will ever convince me that the shot sequence could be pulled off in the very little time required with a bolt-action rifle.

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« Reply #317 on: January 25, 2025, 06:05:17 PM »
Great reply, thanks. Yeah, just saw that footage and it is clear. And yeah, I remember that story about the flashing fake badges. No one ever really has a good answer for that. Why would a cop like that lie? He didn't and submitted his report as is. A lot of folks are always looking for the "big reveal" in this case but you don't need to find those big reveals. This is a perfect example of just flashing a badge here and there a diversion, then fading into the crowd and it's over and done with.

I know LHO didn't do it and I also know that the rear shots came from that other building and from somewhere on the hill. And nothing will ever convince me that the shot sequence could be pulled off in the very little time required with a bolt-action rifle.

   I believe Oswald was probably a very low level CIA/FBI asset. He probably set-up the sniper's nest. We just saw the FBI finally admit they had 26 "CI's" mixed into that J6 crowd. Oswald was a 1963 version of what today is referred to as a Confidential Informant/"CI".
   I am currently working on the 3 shooter theory that was presented in "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" (1988) BBC. That theory was 1 shooter in Front of the JFK Limo, 2 behind the JFK Limo, with 1 of those 2 shooters behind the Limo being, "ALMOST on the horizontal". I believe that DPD Officer Smith was searching for that, "Almost on the horizontal" shooter. His WC Testimony is that a hysterical woman ran up to him at the corner of Elm/Houston St and told him that shots were being fired "through the bushes". Those bushes being across from the TSBD on the Elm St Extension. This is what we see Officer Smith doing on the Darnell and Couch Films. He is searching those bushes as he runs down the Elm St Ext in response to that hysterical woman. 
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« Reply #318 on: January 25, 2025, 07:49:55 PM »

We just saw the FBI finally admit they had 26 "Confidential Informants" mixed into that J6 crowd.

Do you think those confidential informants were instructed by their "Deep State" FBI handlers to incite the violence and/or participate in it, Storing?
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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #319 on: January 25, 2025, 09:05:29 PM »
Do you think those confidential informants were instructed by their "Deep State" FBI handlers to incite the violence and/or participate in it, Storing?

    What these CI's did or did Not do is Not the issue. Point is,the FBI hid this Fact for almost 4yrs. There were CI's inside the building that day and None were ever charged. DOJ wanted Trump and would do/say whatever it took to get him. If Trump had Not won the election, he would have been doing time in prison. Rumors were circulating 2 months before the election that security upgrades were well underway at Rikers. The DOJ is gonna see a house cleaning. FBI Wray already is running out the door. Trump is basically an Orange Elliot Ness. Dude's a lame duck. He does Not have to weigh every decision against being re-elected. Hell hath no fury like a Lame Duck Orange Man. And they know it. Trump along with everyone close to him are at risk. High Risk! 

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« Reply #319 on: January 25, 2025, 09:05:29 PM »