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Online Royell Storing

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #440 on: February 14, 2025, 09:05:20 PM »
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No, it doesn't.  At least not in any meaningful way that is relevant to the assassination.  Paine testified that she didn't know the rifle was there much less do anything with it.  There is zero evidence that Ruth Paine ever touched the rifle.  She was surprised when the police showed up and Marina indicated it was in the garage.  She certainly did not assassinate JFK.

      Marina is also "connected" to the rifle. She definitely knew about it. In fact, she ID'd the rifle that very night.   

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #441 on: February 14, 2025, 09:20:40 PM »
Yes, completely agree.  If Paine was an important part of any plot to frame Oswald for the assassination (and what a laughable premise) by controlling the rifle, then she could easily have furthered the frame up by making the type of statements you cited.  That would have gone a long way toward removing any doubt of Oswald's guilt.
Michael Paine said that Oswald told him that JFK was the "best president in my lifetime." I'm going to suggest that's not what a CIA agent instructed to frame Oswald would say.

But that's in this world where up is up and down is down. In conspiracy world everything is the opposite. So the Paine quote is obviously evidence he *was* an agent framing Oswald. This is how these people think.

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #442 on: February 14, 2025, 10:21:16 PM »
There is a simplicity that lies on the far side of complexity.  It goes like this.  Oswald bought a rifle with a specific serial number.  That rifle was used to kill JFK.  No one other than Oswald has ever been connected to that rifle.  These facts are supported by the evidence beyond any reasonable doubt.  Unless that changes - case closed.

Cool story, bro.  Just claiming something does not make it a "fact" though.

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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #443 on: February 14, 2025, 10:27:25 PM »

There is a simplicity that lies on the far side of complexity.  It goes like this.  Oswald bought a rifle with a specific serial number.  That rifle was used to kill JFK.  No one other than Oswald has ever been connected to that rifle.  These facts are supported by the evidence beyond any reasonable doubt.  Unless that changes - case closed.

Cool story, bro.  Just claiming something does not make it a "fact" though.

Here we go again, besides your paranoid delusions, where's your solid evidence that refutes anything that Richard stated?
Waiting...............Zzzzz.......

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #444 on: February 14, 2025, 10:34:05 PM »
How can a missed shot be required if JBC was hit in the back by a different bullet than the one through JFK's neck?  We know that JBC and JFK were already hit before z313 so if there was only one other shot that struck, it must have made all the wounds other than the JFK head wound.

Here is how three shots three hits works:

1. The first hit JFK passing through his neck and continued going straight thereafter. 
2.  The second struck JBC in the back.
3.  The third struck JFK in the head
Right, thank you. I don't insist on this scenario - I don't insist on any scenario, because there are just too many variables - but I don't find this implausible at all. The fact that there is, at this late date, so much debate as to how many shots were fired, when they were fired, and from where they were fired is rather telling, I believe.

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #445 on: February 14, 2025, 10:52:26 PM »
      Marina is also "connected" to the rifle. She definitely knew about it. In fact, she ID'd the rifle that very night.

 BS:

She said it "could be".

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #446 on: February 14, 2025, 10:53:15 PM »
Here we go again, besides your paranoid delusions, where's your solid evidence that refutes anything that Richard stated?
Waiting...............Zzzzz.......

Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #447 on: February 14, 2025, 11:13:37 PM »
Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

The evidence is well established and 60+ years later not one shred of evidence has been refuted.

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #447 on: February 14, 2025, 11:13:37 PM »