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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #264 on: January 21, 2025, 11:07:20 PM »
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I went back and looked at the Holland version again since he said it was the highest resolution to date.

I would not be able to say with certainty I saw a person, that's for sure. I think any motion I was looking at would have been just above where the box edge was sticking up (presumably that was the outer box that was fairly bright), where something looked to be near, or just above the window cross bar, slightly above that brighter box rest. There seemed to be some change in light background intensity around there and I don't know if that was motion or if could be some variation in illumination of stacked boxes in the background that varied with the lighting or "pixel noise" that others have talked about, I don't know, but the blob seemed to be more centered and above the box at the ledge, and not right at either edge of the window.  Could having the limo being further around to the left relative to the window case at that time, while turning in the intersection and harder to continuously track at that time cause Oswald to temporarily lean right or move further west behind the rifle rest boxes and position him for better viewing in a standing or crouching position that morphed into a first shot position, I have no idea.

Bottom line is I don't think I can add anything to help you out on this question. Sorry, I wish I could.


Thanks Brian, it seems that you have tried to answer my question as best you can. I appreciate that. As I interpret your description it appears to me to say you think you see some unidentified movement in the area that I have circled in red in the image below (from the Holland video). Is my interpretation essentially correct? Thanks again.




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« Reply #265 on: January 21, 2025, 11:46:18 PM »
Charles, Yes that's about right. I might slide the circle upwards a little more to move the circle up a little bit. Up just a bit from the bright spot on the bottom (which I assumed was the side of a box) and the circle top going up a little more, further above the white bottom of the window catching some more of that semi-light area up there. I guess if someone was standing straight up back there, their head might extend into next upper part of the window, but this adjusted circle area is where I though I saw something that might be considered movement.

Now I am getting the feeling this is some sort of Rorschach test on me. I do not want you coming back saying I am psychologically deranged or the like. You may determine that is the case, buts let not make it public just yet ???.

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #266 on: January 21, 2025, 11:47:41 PM »
   That sniper's nest issa Black Hole, which is what it was primarily intended to be. Mis-direction. Look for the shooter, "almost on the horizontal". The one that Wiegman was referencing when he said that he felt the Compression of a bullet on his face.

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #267 on: January 22, 2025, 12:04:27 AM »
That sniper's nest is a Black Hole, which is what it was primarily intended to be. Mis-direction. Look for the shooter, "almost on the horizontal". The one that Wiegman was referencing when he said that he felt the Compression of a bullet on his face.

IMHO, you're full of you-know-what and KGB disinformation whether you realize it or not.
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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #268 on: January 22, 2025, 12:09:28 AM »
Charles, Yes that's about right. I might slide the circle upwards a little more to move the circle up a little bit. Up just a bit from the bright spot on the bottom (which I assumed was the side of a box) and the circle top going up a little more, further above the white bottom of the window catching some more of that semi-light area up there. I guess if someone was standing straight up back there, their head might extend into next upper part of the window, but this adjusted circle area is where I though I saw something that might be considered movement.

Now I am getting the feeling this is some sort of Rorschach test on me. I do not want you coming back saying I am psychologically deranged or the like. You may determine that is the case, buts let not make it public just yet ???.


Thanks Brian. LOL, on the Rorschach test. I just plan to see how your description fits with how my model looks from Hughes’ camera angle with standing versus sitting snipers. That’s all. Thanks again for the description.

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #269 on: January 22, 2025, 12:16:22 AM »
   That sniper's nest issa Black Hole, which is what it was primarily intended to be. Mis-direction. Look for the shooter, "almost on the horizontal". The one that Wiegman was referencing when he said that he felt the Compression of a bullet on his face.



Yes, I remember Wiegman saying that in a video. As I recall he said he was closing in on the TSBD around the third shot and felt the compression on his face.

Malcome Kilduff said basically the same thing. Identical shots and he felt the muzzle blasts on his face. He said three similar shots and if allowing for a perception time of zero seconds before speaking, recalled some words spoken took about 3.5 seconds between the first and second shot, and I think he assumed Connally was hit by his own bullet. He also initially had one of those (firecracker, shot, shot) testimonies.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoWef3EAmnc&t=1511s




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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #270 on: January 22, 2025, 01:59:02 AM »
IMHO, you're full of you-know-what and KGB disinformation whether you realize it or not.

   That is Not me. That is the eyewitness account of Wiegman.  He clearly said that he felt the compression of a bullet on his face. Do you believe that Oswald was: (1) still firing shot(s) when Wiegman was getting out of Camera Car #1 at the corner of Houston/Elm? and (2) still firing shot(s) at ground level? Or is Wiegman also full of "KGB Disinformation"? Which is it?
 
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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #271 on: January 22, 2025, 02:08:33 AM »
That is Not me. That is the eyewitness account of Wiegman.  He clearly said that he felt the compression of a bullet on his face. Do you believe that Oswald was: (1) still firing shot(s) when Wiegman was getting out of Camera Car #1 at the corner of Houston/Elm? and (2) still firing shot(s) at ground level? Or is Wiegman also full of "KGB Disinformation"? Which is it?

I was commenting on this bit:

"That sniper's nest is a Black Hole, which is what it was primarily intended to be. Mis-direction."

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #271 on: January 22, 2025, 02:08:33 AM »