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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #400 on: February 12, 2025, 03:04:36 AM »
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Thanks, I should have also asked for the view from Zapruder’s camera angel. Please provide this if you will.
Here are the views from Zapruder and from the left side showing the path from the SN:



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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #401 on: February 12, 2025, 10:52:11 AM »
   Main St? JFK and Connally are continually moving/shifting around inside the Limo. And you wanna look at the positions of JFK & Connally way back on Main St? This makes obvious the difficulty you are having.

No, the limo was on Elm Street, during the shots, with the SS follow up vehicle right behind it. The photographer was positioned around Main Street and took the photo across the plaza. Hence I said: …was taken on 11/22/63 from the Main Street area. Sorry for the confusion.

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #402 on: February 12, 2025, 10:59:15 AM »
Here are the views from Zapruder and from the left side showing the path from the SN:





Thanks, I am in the process of working on some things related to all of this. It may take me a little time. But I should be responding before too long. In the meantime, you might want to see about getting those two front tires inflated. They look a little flat on the bottom. Just kidding of course.   ;)

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #403 on: February 12, 2025, 01:37:39 PM »
Thanks, I am in the process of working on some things related to all of this. It may take me a little time. But I should be responding before too long. In the meantime, you might want to see about getting those two front tires inflated. They look a little flat on the bottom. Just kidding of course.   ;)
I should have explained that the model is constructed on a flat map of Dealey Plaza, so in order to create the correct slope of Elm St. the car is rotated forward 3 degrees. This puts the front wheels are about 10 inches below the rear wheels. I also have to adjust the height of the TSBD based on the survey in CE884 for the point at which I place the car. So the SN is 60+4.5 feet above the road below where JFK is located at z193.

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #404 on: February 12, 2025, 01:42:26 PM »
Here are the views from Zapruder and from the left side showing the path from the SN:





   I'm gonna call  BS: on this "visual aid" From the Zapruder view. The Stemmons Sign is way off, the Limo is in the Wrong Lane, Seriously? Waste of time.

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #405 on: February 12, 2025, 03:41:52 PM »
I should have explained that the model is constructed on a flat map of Dealey Plaza, so in order to create the correct slope of Elm St. the car is rotated forward 3 degrees. This puts the front wheels are about 10 inches below the rear wheels. I also have to adjust the height of the TSBD based on the survey in CE884 for the point at which I place the car. So the SN is 60+4.5 feet above the road below where JFK is located at z193.


Yes, I figured that was what you did. Hence the just kidding remark. I have similar limitations on the software I use.

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #406 on: February 12, 2025, 06:56:57 PM »
   I'm gonna call  BS: on this "visual aid" From the Zapruder view. The Stemmons Sign is way off, the Limo is in the Wrong Lane, Seriously? Waste of time.

When I switched around the views I see that I inadvertently dragged the map which moves the position of the TSBD and the car/occupants relative to the map but doesn't change the relative positions of the SN and the car or its occupants.  I have since corrected it.

As far as the Stemmons sign is concerned, the earlier view did not show the Stemmons sign.   That was the Thornton sign on the left side.

In order to get the view from Zapruder one has to zoom in from Zapruder's position.  In Sketchup, which is what I am using, the zoom function gives a different zoom perspective than the Bell & Howell camera that Zapruder was using.  Here is the layout that I am using:


I zoom in over top of the Stemmons sign to get a more detailed view of the car and two men.   Here is the same view without the zoom:


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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #407 on: February 12, 2025, 08:32:25 PM »
When I switched around the views I see that I inadvertently dragged the map which moves the position of the TSBD and the car/occupants relative to the map but doesn't change the relative positions of the SN and the car or its occupants.  I have since corrected it.

As far as the Stemmons sign is concerned, the earlier view did not show the Stemmons sign.   That was the Thornton sign on the left side.

In order to get the view from Zapruder one has to zoom in from Zapruder's position.  In Sketchup, which is what I am using, the zoom function gives a different zoom perspective than the Bell & Howell camera that Zapruder was using.  Here is the layout that I am using:


I zoom in over top of the Stemmons sign to get a more detailed view of the car and two men.   Here is the same view without the zoom:



Thanks again Andrew. I am making progress. I think you might be interested in the results. Hopefully the remaining work will go faster, now that I have figured out how to proceed with it.   ;)

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #407 on: February 12, 2025, 08:32:25 PM »