If I had planned the conspiracy ...

[Martin Weidmann]

The logical "reasonable inference" here is this one....

The rifle we see Oswald holding in the 3/31/63 backyard photographs and the rifle with the serial number C2766 stamped on it that was found on the 6th floor of the TSBD on 11/22/63 is the same rifle that Klein's shipped to Oswald on March 20, 1963 (which is the exact same "C2766" rifle referred to in the Klein's documents).

Any other "inference" is just plain silly and far-fetched.

So, you added this to your post two minutes after I asked the question.... How disappointing.

But I'll reply to it anyway.

The rifle we see Oswald holding in the 3/31/63 backyard photographs and the rifle with the serial number C2766 stamped on it that was found on the 6th floor of the TSBD on 11/22/63 is the same rifle that Klein's shipped to Oswald on March 20, 1963 (which is the exact same "C2766" rifle referred to in the Klein's documents).

There is not a shred of evidence that shows the rifle that Oswald is holding in the backyard photos has the serial number C2766 on it and/or that it was ever found on the 6th floor of the TSBD. There is also no evidence that it's the same rifle Klein's allegedly shipped to Oswald.

Your entire claim is nothing more than contrived conjecture motivated by wishful thinking.

Do you have proof that shows the rifle Oswald is holding in the photographs has the serial number C2766 on it?
Do you have proof that shows that the rifle Oswald is holding in the photographs is the same one that was found at the TSBD?
 
Any other "inference" is just plain silly and far-fetched.

Does this mean that you completely dismiss the possibility that Oswald was manipulated and, if so, what is your dismissal based on?

[Tom Mahon]

There is not a shred of evidence that shows the rifle that Oswald is holding in the backyard photos has the serial number C2766 on it and/or that it was ever found on the 6th floor of the TSBD. There is also no evidence that it's the same rifle Klein's allegedly shipped to Oswald.

Going from memory here, but weren't some marks that are visible on the Carcano in the photos matched with marks on the Carcano that was found on the sixth floor?

[David Von Pein]

Does this mean that you completely dismiss the possibility that Oswald was manipulated and, if so, what is your dismissal based on?

I think YOU need to tell ME your proof that "Oswald was manipulated" into ordering the rifle. Isn't that how it usually works when a rather outlandish claim is made? The person making the claim has the burden of proof.

[John Mytton]

Going from memory here, but weren't some marks that are visible on the Carcano in the photos matched with marks on the Carcano that was found on the sixth floor?

Yep, the HSCA expert proved beyond all doubt that Oswald's rifle(C2766) that was directly linked to the fragments discovered in JFK's limo and found on the 6th floor of the Depository where Oswald worked, was being held by Oswald in the backyard of Oswald's apartment on Neely Street!
Also consider that Oswald lied to the Dallas Police that he lived on Neely Street, Hmmm I wonder why?
Another interesting factoid is that the backyard photos were taken shortly after Kleins sent C2766 and just before Oswald used C2766 in an attempt to assassinate General Walker.

The HSCA evidence that the backyard rifle was the murder weapon and consider that after more than 40 years later this evidence has never been even remotely debunked!




JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

I think YOU need to tell ME your proof that "Oswald was manipulated" into ordering the rifle. Isn't that how it usually works when a rather outlandish claim is made? The person making the claim has the burden of proof.

I didn't make a claim. I responded to a comment you made and simply asked a question.
Your answer will determine if it is worth both our time to have a discussion about the subject.

But I will say this; evidence becomes more conclusive and credible by elimination of other possible explanations.

[Martin Weidmann]

Yep, the HSCA expert proved beyond all doubt that Oswald's rifle(C2766) that was directly linked to the fragments discovered in JFK's limo and found on the 6th floor of the Depository where Oswald worked, was being held by Oswald in the backyard of Oswald's apartment on Neely Street!
Also consider that Oswald lied to the Dallas Police that he lived on Neely Street, Hmmm I wonder why?
Another interesting factoid is that the backyard photos were taken shortly after Kleins sent C2766 and just before Oswald used C2766 in an attempt to assassinate General Walker.

The HSCA evidence that the backyard rifle was the murder weapon and consider that after more than 40 years later this evidence has never been even remotely debunked!




JohnM

Yep, the HSCA expert proved beyond all doubt that Oswald's rifle(C2766) that was directly linked to the fragments discovered in JFK's limo

Who discovered the fragments in JFK's limo?

[Tom Mahon]

Who discovered the bullet fragments in JFK's limo?

Probably some evil dude from the Military Industrial Intelligence-Community Complex.

[John Mytton]

Yep, the HSCA expert proved beyond all doubt that Oswald's rifle(C2766) that was directly linked to the fragments discovered in JFK's limo

Who discovered the fragments in JFK's limo?

And away we go, down, down, down the rabbit hole where the majority of every type of law enforcement connected with this case wanted Kennedy dead and they all wanted to blame Oswald. Your psychotic paranoia and complete lack of evidence for each of your many, many suspicions is really entertaining, keep it up!

THE PRESIDENTIAL AUTOMOBILE

After the Presidential car was returned to Washington on November 22, 1963, Secret Service agents found two bullet fragments in the front seat. One fragment, found on the seat beside the driver, weighed 44.6 grains and consisted of the nose portion of a bullet.92 The other fragment, found along the right side of the front seat, weighed 21.0 grains and consisted of the base portion of a bullet.93 During the course of an examination on November 23, agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation found three small lead particles, weighing between seven-tenths and nine-tenths of a grain each, on the rug underneath the left jump seat which had been occupied by Mrs. Connally.94 During this examination, the Bureau agents noted a small residue of lead on the inside surface of the laminated windshield and a very small pattern of cracks on the outer layer of the windshield immediately behind the lead residue.95 There was a minute particle of glass missing from the outside surface, but no penetration. The inside layer of glass was not broken.96 The agents also observed a dent in the strip of chrome across the top of the windshield, located to the left of the rear view mirror support.97

EXPERT EXAMINATION OF RIFLE, CARTRIDGE CASES, AND BULLET FRAGMENTS

On the sixth floor of the Depository Building, the Dallas police found three spent cartridges and a rifle. A nearly whole bullet was discovered on the stretcher used to carry Governor Connally at Parkland Hospital. As described in the preceding section, five bullet fragments were found in the President's limousine. The cartridge cases, the nearly whole bullet and the bullet fragments were all subjected to firearms identification analysis by qualified experts. It was the unanimous opinion of the experts that the nearly whole bullet, the two largest. bullet fragments. and the three cartridge cases were definitely fired in the rifle found on the sixth floor of the Depository Building to the exclusion of all other weapons.

JohnM