FBI discovers nearly 2,400 new records related to JFK assassination...

[Jake Maxwell]

"The FBI has discovered roughly 2,400 new records related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy (JFK), pursuant to a recent file search following President Donald Trump’s recent executive order." - The Epoch Times

Let's see if these records show up for public viewing...

[Lance Payette]

In their zeal to find sinister implications in everything, I think CTers once again fail to deal with real-world realities.

I just happened to be reading a 1991 memo from the National Archivist (Wilson) to the FBI Director (Sessions) concerning classified World War Two records. He explained that more the 27,000,000 pages remained classified. In just the previous year, some 10,270,000 pages were declassified – but more than that were added. Thousands and thousands of cubic feet remained at the CIA, FBI, DOJ, Army, Navy and numerous other agencies. He described the Archives’ task as essentially impossible.

Yes, WW2 was a bigger event than the JFKA except to all but the most rabid CTers, but the point is that federal records are a huge and messy business and agencies are weirdly protective in matters where the rest of us would see no need for secrecy. As I recall, World War One records were still being declassified well into the 2000s.

Any notion that there is some box or room of smoking-gun records just isn’t realistic, any more than the notion of such a repository of the “real” UFO records is realistic. I once pointed out how many wildly disparate CIA, FBI and National Intelligence Directors there have been since 1963, not to mention Assistant Directors, career employees and grunt-level potential whistleblowers. ALL OF THEM have participated in a JFKA cover-up? Because …. why? Or is there some secret cabal deep underground who raise their children to be their successors and never see the light of day – a veritable High Priesthood of Cover-Up? What do CTers think this cover-up actually looks like?

My guess is, the explanation is the usual one: bureaucratic ineptitude. If any future release of any document actually casts significant doubt on the LN scenario (anywhere except in the mind of Jefferson Morley, of course), I will send everyone here a free coupon for two chalupas (chalupi? chalupae?) and a Diet Coke at Taco Bell. (DO NOT get the new Orange Cream Diet Coke, people. I made that mistake. Even the cashier at Walmart tried to talk me out of it.)

[Lance Payette]

Synchronicity is fascinating. Immediately after posting on this thread, I went out to the garage to do my morning weight program. The only radio reception I get in the garage is a tiny local transmitter for goofy American Family Radio. On the goofy Jenna Ellis program, the first words out of the radio were some former CIA operations officer (Scott Ewing?) talking about the JFKA records!

His theory for the 60+ years of cover-up? Up until now, the American public couldn’t handle the dark truth. (Now that we’re bitterly divided and on the brink of civil war we can? Oh, well, never mind.)

This is exactly what those in the UFO community have been saying for considerably more than 60+ years – the government fears the public couldn’t handle the dark truth!

Although Jim DiEugenio squealed like a baby pig without its mommy every time I brought up the subject on the Ed Forum, the parallels between the UFO community and the JFKA community are so uncannily exact that it’s fascinating. Exact, I tell you. Just Roswell would be a perfect case study. (FWIW, my involvement in ufology absolutely dwarfs my involvement in the JFKA.)

An exposure to other conspiracy communities would be highly instructive and perhaps even enlightening for those CTers who try to tell themselves the JFKA is something entirely different, as DiEugenio does. No, it’s the same mix of serious researchers swimming against the tide, CT high priests and hucksters, liars and hoaxsters, gee-whiz true believers, books and books and books, conferences and conferences and conferences, theories and theories and theories, and it never goes anywhere. In fact, in both fields the true loonies make the most noise but actually have the effect of making serious research vastly more difficult. One might easily conclude it's the CT community that is the actual disinformation operation.

I will expand my previous offer to include a McDonald’s Happy Meal coupon if the current UAP whistleblower hysteria results in any meaningful contribution to an explanation of the UFO phenomenon. I must reiterate, however: do not get Orange Cream Diet Coke. You have been warned.

[Royell Storing]

  Not sure whether you are pro or con with respect to UFO's, UAP's, the submersible stuff, etc. Just writing ALL of that off is too Polly Anna. The Roswell story is simply too long ago to thoroughly research. Plus, the military had a roughly 30 yr head start to do any required cleanup. The stuff that went down outside that military base in Rendlesham UK (1980) is where I would concentrate my efforts.

[Lance Payette]

  Not sure whether you are pro or con with respect to UFO's, UAP's, the submersible stuff, etc. Just writing ALL of that off is too Polly Anna. The Roswell story is simply too long ago to thoroughly research. Plus, the military had a roughly 30 yr head start to do any required cleanup. The stuff that went down outside that military base in Rendlesham UK (1980) is where I would concentrate my efforts.

Way off topic, but in 1971 I had a startling, close-up daylight encounter in the company of an arch-skeptic who just about wet his pants. I absolutely acknowledge the reality of a Mysterious Phenomenon; to do otherwise would be irrational. I have, however, morphed from a Gee-Whiz True Believer to someone who discounts the conventional ET explanation and is highly sensitive to the nonsense that pervades the field.

Roswell is something else. I start by asking how likely it is that an alien craft from Zeta Reticuli would crash in the NM desert. On the other hand, the most credible evidence for Something Genuinely Weird amounts to a pretty large pile that can't just be dismissed. I've reached the point where I no longer even have a good guess. If forced, I would lean toward a staged event by the Mysterious Phenomenon for its own purposes. This is more or less what Jacques Vallee suggested long ago with his Control System theory - i.e., an intelligence of some sort is manipulating humanity for purposes known only to it. This was also the theme of Stanislaw Lem's novel Solaris (the Russian movie is wonderful, the Hollywood version is crap): If we ever encounter a non-human intelligence, we likely will have no idea what it is doing or why and may not even realize we've encountered it.

[John Iacoletti]

My guess is, the explanation is the usual one: bureaucratic ineptitude. If any future release of any document actually casts significant doubt on the LN scenario (anywhere except in the mind of Jefferson Morley, of course), I will send everyone here a free coupon for two chalupas (chalupi? chalupae?) and a Diet Coke at Taco Bell. (DO NOT get the new Orange Cream Diet Coke, people. I made that mistake. Even the cashier at Walmart tried to talk me out of it.)

Shows how much you know.

Taco Bell doesn't serve Coke products.

[Lance Payette]

My guess is, the explanation is the usual one: bureaucratic ineptitude. If any future release of any document actually casts significant doubt on the LN scenario (anywhere except in the mind of Jefferson Morley, of course), I will send everyone here a free coupon for two chalupas (chalupi? chalupae?) and a Diet Coke at Taco Bell. (DO NOT get the new Orange Cream Diet Coke, people. I made that mistake. Even the cashier at Walmart tried to talk me out of it.)
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Shows how much you know.

Taco Bell doesn't serve Coke products.

They still do in many non-U.S. locations, although I admittedly haven't been in any fast food restaurant in perhaps 30 years. We will appoint you the Taco Bell Factoid Master, Junior Grade.

[John Iacoletti]

They still do in many non-U.S. locations, although I admittedly haven't been in any fast food restaurant in perhaps 30 years. We will appoint you the Taco Bell Factoid Master, Junior Grade.

I wasn't aware that Arizona is a non-US location!