On Trial: Lee Harvey Oswald and Bugliosi's 53 pieces of evidence

[Lance Payette]

Leaving the wallet, cash and wedding ring could suggest planning. Especially with the curious Thursday trip to the Paine house, the curious curtain rod excuse and the disappearance of the rifle from the garage.

The non-responsiveness to Whaley could suggest consciousness of guilt (the evidentiary legal term). It might or might not be admissible and would carry no great weight if it were admitted. Leaving the TSBD, getting the gun, shooting Tippit, fleeing to the theater, resisting arrest, yada yada, all make the non-responsiveness to Whaley pale in comparison.

As DVP suggests, it's the context that's important.

[Martin Weidmann]

Leaving the wallet, cash and wedding ring could suggest planning. Especially with the curious Thursday trip to the Paine house, the curious curtain rod excuse and the disappearance of the rifle from the garage.

The non-responsiveness to Whaley could suggest consciousness of guilt (the evidentiary legal term). It might or might not be admissible and would carry no great weight if it were admitted. Leaving the TSBD, getting the gun, shooting Tippit, fleeing to the theater, resisting arrest, yada yada, all make the non-responsiveness to Whaley pale in comparison.

As DVP suggests, it's the context that's important.

Leaving the wallet, cash and wedding ring could suggest planning. Especially with the curious Thursday trip to the Paine house, the curious curtain rod excuse and the disappearance of the rifle from the garage.

There was nothing curious about the Thursday trip. Both Marina and Ruth Paine testified that they believed he had come to make up and get back together with Marina.

Nothing curious about the curtain rod excuse. Would you discuss marital problems with a 19 year old kid?

And as far as the rifle goes; what evidence do you have that there actually was a rifle in Ruth Paine's garage on 11/21/63? Or are you simply assuming that there was one?

The non-responsiveness to Whaley could suggest consciousness of guilt (the evidentiary legal term).

Wow, I must have been guilty many times when I count the number of times I did not talk to a taxi driver.   

Leaving the TSBD, getting the gun, shooting Tippit, fleeing to the theater, resisting arrest, yada yada, all make the non-responsiveness to Whaley pale in comparison.

Which assumes all sorts of things for which there is only circumstantial evidence or no evidence at all.

With enough assumptions you can find anybody guilty of anything.

[Lance Payette]

Leaving the wallet, cash and wedding ring could suggest planning. Especially with the curious Thursday trip to the Paine house, the curious curtain rod excuse and the disappearance of the rifle from the garage.

There was nothing curious about the Thursday trip. Both Marina and Ruth Paine testified that they believed had come to make up and get back together with Marina.

Nothing curious about the curtain rod excuse. Would you discuss marital problems with a 19 year old kid?

And as far as the rifle goes; what evidence do you have that there actually was a rifle in Ruth Paine's garage on 11/21/63? Or are you simply assuming that there was one?

The non-responsiveness to Whaley could suggest consciousness of guilt (the evidentiary legal term).

Wow, I must have been guilty of many times when I count the number of times I did not talk to a taxi driver.   

Leaving the TSBD, getting the gun, shooting Tippit, fleeing to the theater, resisting arrest, yada yada, all make the non-responsiveness to Whaley pale in comparison.

Which assumes all sorts of things for which there is only circumstantial evidence or no evidence at all.

With enough assumptions you can find anybody guilty of anything.

Sorry, I've humored you past the breaking point. You are Exhibit A for why I have repeatedly sworn off forums such as this. Declare victory if you like, but you're simply a nutcase and not worth any more of my time.

[John Mytton]

Oswald only drove to Irving with Buell Frazier on a couple of times. A week earlier he did not go at all.... why isn't that an unusual movement but going on a thursday is?

Why do you insist on being so dishonest, Oswald went home with Frazier each and every weekend but one, so much more than a mere "couple of times" and when Oswald's baby was born, he went to Irving on Monday afternoon and stayed till Tuesday morning.
And the whole idea of going home on a weekend was so that Oswald could spend time with his family, like Friday night, all day Satu-rday and all day Sunday, so just spending a few hours with his children on Thursday night was hardly satisfactory. And especially just turning up without informing and clearing his visit with the owner of the house was just rude.
Btw, it's odd that you find the most inane things to be highly suspicious but this glaring anomaly you lie about and try to make excuses, that says a lot!

Mr. BALL - Did he ride home with you in your car on weekends?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir; he did.
Mr. BALL - On Friday nights.
Mr. FRAZIER - Right.
Mr. BALL - From that time until November 22, did he ride home with you every weekend?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; he did every weekend but one.

Edit, for some reason the Forum won't let me post the word Sat-urday, maybe because of the tu-rd in the middle?

JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

Sorry, I've humored you past the breaking point. You are Exhibit A for why I have repeatedly sworn off forums such as this. Declare victory if you like, but you're simply a nutcase and not worth any more of my time.

Thank you for showing that you have nothing but hot air to offer.

[Martin Weidmann]

Oswald drove to Irving with Frazier only a couple of times;

Oswald was hired by the TSBD on 10/16/63

He drove to Irving with Frazier on;

Friday 10/18/63
Monday 10/20/63 after the birth of his daughter
Friday 10/25/63
Friday 11/01/63
Friday 11/08/63

He didn't go with Frazier on Friday 11/15/63 because Marina was angry with him

And then he went with Frazier to Irving on Thursday 11/21/63

Conclusion; Oswald went to Irving with Frazier on Friday for "each and every weekend" for four weeks in a row.....   

[Tom Mahon]

Wow, I must have been guilty of many times when I count the number of times I did not talk to a taxi driver.   

Did you always remain silent whenever the taxi driver said something to you about something unusual and very noticeable that was going on around you (plural), like "police cars with sirens going, crisscrossing everywhere, an uproar," or were you always too drunk and therefore don't remember?

[Tom Mahon]

You are Exhibit A for why I have repeatedly sworn off forums such as this. Declare victory if you like, but you're simply a nutcase and not worth any more of my time.

It seems as though tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theorists are genetically predisposed to be paranoiac, vulnerable to KGB* disinformation, and full of hate towards the evil, evil, evil, evil government.

*Today's SVR and FSB