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Offline Jim Hawthorn

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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2025, 09:59:19 PM »
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Just as the HSC on Assassinations suggested and just as President Ford confirmed in conversation with the President of France in the 70s - a conspiracy.
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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2025, 10:29:22 PM »
It pretty fringe to think there wasn't a conspiracy now.  The probabilities make it pretty plain.  It's the cover-ups that are the real tell. The world deserves details now.

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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2025, 10:45:27 PM »
It pretty fringe to think there wasn't a conspiracy now.  The probabilities make it pretty plain.  It's the cover-ups that are the real tell. The world deserves details now.
More than 60 years of investigations - by multiple generations of Americans inside the government and out - and after all of that no credible/serious evidence of a conspiracy was found (no, the HSCA's conclusions of "probably" one doesn't meet my standard). How much more is needed? How many more investigations? Do we just dismiss all of those investigations. The ones done by the government and the media? The same media that exposed the CIA's crimes? They missed it? As Seymour Hersh said, the idea that the CIA was behind the assassination is absurd.

I guess Hersh and all of the subsequent investigations were part of coverups too? After all, as you said it's obvious there was a conspiracy. If it's obvious than the Warren Commission and FBI and HSCA and Church Committee and the NY Times and CBS and PBS and Seymour Hersh and Tim Weiner and on and on have been covering it up. That was Seymour Hersh, someone who knows something about how the CIA works.

Here we are and the conspiracy believers can't agree on anything other than there was a conspiracy. By the CIA. No it was the Mob. No it was LBJ. No it was anti-Castro Cubans. No it was the Birchers. No it was the Pentagon. No it was rich Texas oilmen. After all this time you folks can't agree on anything.

So who has been covering it all up all of these decades? Any original assassins are long dead. So you think a current generation of Americans, many of whom weren't even alive at the time, are covering it up? Even today? That makes no sense at all. Even more unlikely, as we know Democrats and Republicans hate each other like two sects in a religious war. The idea that they could get together to cover this up is...well, sorry, it's not believable.

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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2025, 11:39:34 PM »
More than 60 years of investigations - by multiple generations of Americans inside the government and out - and after all of that no credible/serious evidence of a conspiracy was found (no, the HSCA's conclusions of "probably" one doesn't meet my standard). How much more is needed? How many more investigations? Do we just dismiss all of those investigations. The ones done by the government and the media? The same media that exposed the CIA's crimes? They missed it? As Seymour Hersh said, the idea that the CIA was behind the assassination is absurd.

I guess Hersh and all of the subsequent investigations were part of coverups too? After all, as you said it's obvious there was a conspiracy. If it's obvious than the Warren Commission and FBI and HSCA and Church Committee and the NY Times and CBS and PBS and Seymour Hersh and Tim Weiner and on and on have been covering it up. That was Seymour Hersh, someone who knows something about how the CIA works.

Here we are and the conspiracy believers can't agree on anything other than there was a conspiracy. By the CIA. No it was the Mob. No it was LBJ. No it was anti-Castro Cubans. No it was the Birchers. No it was the Pentagon. No it was rich Texas oilmen. After all this time you folks can't agree on anything.

So who has been covering it all up all of these decades? Any original assassins are long dead. So you think a current generation of Americans, many of whom weren't even alive at the time, are covering it up? Even today? That makes no sense at all. Even more unlikely, as we know Democrats and Republicans hate each other like two sects in a religious war. The idea that they could get together to cover this up is...well, sorry, it's not believable.
I understand your scepticism, and I appreciate the thoughtfulness of your argument. However, dismissing the possibility of a conspiracy because multiple investigations haven't "officially" proven one overlooks some key points.

First, the number of suspicious deaths related to the assassination is statistically staggering. Several researchers have calculated that the probability of so many key witnesses dying unnaturally—many by murder, accident, or suicide—is astronomically low if this were all mere coincidence. If there was no conspiracy, how do we explain that? What are the odds that so many individuals connected to a single historical event would meet untimely and suspicious deaths?

Second, the idea that the media and government “would have exposed it by now” assumes that every institution operates with complete transparency and without bias or political pressure. The same media that has exposed scandals has also ignored or downplayed others when it was inconvenient or dangerous to pursue. The FBI, CIA, and other intelligence agencies have a long history of obfuscation, as even declassified documents now confirm.

Lastly, regarding the disagreement over who was behind it—yes, there are different theories about who orchestrated the assassination, but that doesn’t invalidate the likelihood of a conspiracy. When a murder occurs in a criminal case, investigators may not immediately agree on who pulled the trigger, but that doesn’t mean no murder took place. The simple fact that there are multiple competing theories doesn't negate the substantial evidence that at least some conspiracy likely existed.

I’d genuinely be interested in how you personally explain the statistical anomalies surrounding the deaths of witnesses, the obstruction of evidence, and the inconsistencies in official reports. If it weren't a conspiracy, then what alternative explanation do you find most plausible?

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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2025, 12:12:18 AM »
The number of suspicious deaths related to the assassination is statistically staggering.

Any idea what the base number is of all of the people who were, in one way or another, "related to the assassination"?

One would think it is quite large.

Who determined whether or not a given murdered, suicided, or killed-by-a-really-really-strange accident person was "related" to the assassination," anyway?

John Armstrong, author of the highly influential tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theory book, Harvey and Lee and Harry and . . . Gasp . . . The Three Marguerites"?

LOL!
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« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2025, 12:24:55 AM »
More than 60 years of investigations - by multiple generations of Americans inside the government and out - and after all of that no credible/serious evidence of a conspiracy was found (no, the HSCA's conclusions of "probably" one doesn't meet my standard). How much more is needed? How many more investigations? Do we just dismiss all of those investigations. The ones done by the government and the media? The same media that exposed the CIA's crimes? They missed it? As Seymour Hersh said, the idea that the CIA was behind the assassination is absurd.

I guess Hersh and all of the subsequent investigations were part of coverups too? After all, as you said it's obvious there was a conspiracy. If it's obvious than the Warren Commission and FBI and HSCA and Church Committee and the NY Times and CBS and PBS and Seymour Hersh and Tim Weiner and on and on have been covering it up. That was Seymour Hersh, someone who knows something about how the CIA works.

Here we are and the conspiracy believers can't agree on anything other than there was a conspiracy. By the CIA. No it was the Mob. No it was LBJ. No it was anti-Castro Cubans. No it was the Birchers. No it was the Pentagon. No it was rich Texas oilmen. After all this time you folks can't agree on anything.

So who has been covering it all up all of these decades? Any original assassins are long dead. So you think a current generation of Americans, many of whom weren't even alive at the time, are covering it up? Even today? That makes no sense at all. Even more unlikely, as we know Democrats and Republicans hate each other like two sects in a religious war. The idea that they could get together to cover this up is...well, sorry, it's not believable.

Do we just dismiss all of those investigations.

That's exactly what you did when you dismissed the HSCA investigation because it didn't meet your standard!!
How many more lies, fabrications, manipulations and omissions have to be pointed out in the Warren Commission's 'conclusions' before they are discarded?
The biggest mystery in all this is how the Warren Commission can still be taken seriously. How has that happened? It is utterly baffling.

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« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2025, 12:28:07 AM »
That is a good point. It is very easy to cherry pick.
Analyses suggest that around 100 to 200 individuals could be considered key witnesses—those who had direct knowledge of events surrounding the assassination, the accused assassin Lee Harvey Oswald, Jack Ruby, or other related matters.
While exact percentages depend on how "key witness" is defined, some researchers estimate that between 10% and 25% of potential witnesses died under suspicious circumstances—a rate far above statistical norms. This is often cited as one of the strongest arguments for a cover-up.
In common sense terms, imagine if you had 100 friends and between 10 and 25 of them independently died in unusual ways over the course of a few short years, you might start to appreciate the probability. To put this in context, across the 25–64 age group, the average annual death rate in the US is about 0.3% 3 in 1,000 people per year.

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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2025, 12:39:33 AM »
Here's statistical graph of the estimated excess mortality rate of what might be considered key witness compared to the normal distribution.

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