Any CIA disinformation agents here?

[Lance Payette]

The lunatic fringe at the Ed Forum - notably one of the current moderators, but he's not alone - is obsessed with the idea that internet forums and specifically JFKA forums are literally teeming with paid CIA disinformation agents posing as Lone Nutters. The EF loons worship at the altar of someone named Cass R. Sunstein. This was a new name to me, but apparently he suggested the idea years ago.

Because I'm sane, I find this notion wildly implausible. If it's true, hopefully Elon and DOGE will soon get to the bottom of it and stop the CIA from wasting $30 billion annually on internet trolls so the money can be better spent on a fleet of Tesla cybertrucks.

In the meantime, however, yours truly would like to get in on the gig if possible. Are any of my fellow Lone Nutters here on the payroll? How much are you paid? Who do I contact? Just send me a PM if outing yourself in public would violate your contract and cause your name to be added to the list of Mysterious JFK-Related Deaths.

Let's be serious here, folks: If the CIA actually had the inclination and resources to sponsor legions of internet trolls, do you really think said trolls would be posing as Lone Nutters? Or would they pose as absolute lunatics, people who believe things like Harvey & Lee and Prayer Person and Jim Garrison and Other Assorted Nonsense, thereby embarrassing the JFKA community and causing all CT efforts to be laughed at?

That's right, The Caped Factoid Buster hereby accuses the EF loons and anyone here of similar CT ilk of being CIA disinformation agents! Prove you aren't or shut up. I'm looking at you, EF forum moderators, because there is no way anyone this side of an asylum actually believes the absurdities you purport to believe. Promoting Harvey & Lee is, ipso facto, proof that you receive $750 a month from the CIA and have a red telephone with a direct line to Langley. Prove you don't!

(On the small chance that any fellow Lone Nutters actually are on the payroll, however, do let me know how it works because the price of Old Rasputin Russian Imperial Ale has simply gone through the roof since The Donald was elected.)

Anyway, this video was recently posted at EF and will confirm your darkest suspicions:

[Steve M. Galbraith]

So the idea is that we have (and had) government disinformation agents online spreading lies and working against the conspiracy cause. And then secret documents revealing the conspiracy withheld for decades by elements of six Administrations (at least). Then to get the conspiracy hat trick: Secret teams of assassins roaming the country and on orders killing witnesses. I'll stop at three.

Essentially then we've had a corrupt, illegitimate government for more than half a century, a government led by people who've covered up for the coup makers who killed JFK. This is their view of what's happened over these years (people like Oliver Stone, James Douglas and Jim Garrison make this type of claim).

This is why I pointed out awhile ago that it's ironic that some of the same conspiracy people (the leftwing of the conspiracy movement) who say the above, who say democracy was stolen from us in 1963 when JFK was assassinated in a fascist coup and that this theft has been covered up by subsequent governments/Administrations since then, also say they are worried that Trump will steal democracy from us.

So it's going to be stolen twice? Trump will steal it from the fascists who stole it from us when they killed JFK and covered up for that act? Is that good? Bad? How does this go exactly? It seems the MAGA conspiracists like it; the leftwing conspiracists not so much.

[Richard Smith]

Why would anyone from the US government care about the JFK assassination over 60 years later?  No one in the US government today could have had any involvement.  It is paranoid lunacy derived from necessity.  JFK CTers need the ongoing cover up to explain why they can never prove their pet theory.  Like UFO believers, the excuse is always that the government is covering up the evidence.  The circle of lunacy goes round and round.  Even if the US government was involved in an endless JFK disinformation campaign, why would they waste their time on Internet forums that are populated with loons who spread more misinformation than any government could ever dream of?

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Why would anyone from the US government care about the JFK assassination over 60 years later?  No one in the US government today could have had any involvement.  It is paranoid lunacy derived from necessity.  JFK CTers need the ongoing cover up to explain why they can never prove their pet theory.  Like UFO believers, the excuse is always that the government is covering up the evidence.  The circle of lunacy goes round and round.  Even if the US government was involved in an endless JFK disinformation campaign, why would they waste their time on Internet forums that are populated with loons who spread more misinformation than any government could ever dream of?

Several posters over at the JFK Edu Forum say you're a disinformation agent. Wait until Musk finds out about this waste of money. That black budget is going to get quite a whacking.

Heck, I should get at least 10% of whatever you get. I take Paypal.

Make it 25%.

[Jake Maxwell]

Anyone who rules out of hand CIA or other government operatives from trying to influence the US public, doesn't know much about what the CIA has done in other countries over the decades... Israel, Canada, Russia, China, et al., have probably learned a few things from our agencies!

Why would anyone from the US government care about the JFK assassination over 60 years later?
Perhaps we should ask the CIA officials and Mike Pompeo and others in government who suggested to Trump he should not release all the documents related to the assassination!

"During President Donald Trump's first term, Mike Pompeo, then serving as CIA Director, advised against the full release of certain John F. Kennedy assassination files. Pompeo expressed concerns that releasing these documents could compromise national security by exposing sensitive intelligence operations and sources."

Yeah, the cover-up continues!

[Lance Payette]

Anyone who rules out of hand CIA or other government operatives from trying to influence the US public, doesn't know much about what the CIA has done in other countries over the decades... Israel, Canada, Russia, China, et al., have probably learned a few things from our agencies!

Why would anyone from the US government care about the JFK assassination over 60 years later?
Perhaps we should ask the CIA officials and Mike Pompeo and others in government who suggested to Trump he should not release all the documents related to the assassination!

"During President Donald Trump's first term, Mike Pompeo, then serving as CIA Director, advised against the full release of certain John F. Kennedy assassination files. Pompeo expressed concerns that releasing these documents could compromise national security by exposing sensitive intelligence operations and sources."

Yeah, the cover-up continues!

It makes sense to you, does it, that the CIA does this by populating obscure internet forums with LN trolls who feverishly attack Conspiracy Factoids as though they were playing Whack-a-Mole because - what? - the CIA is afraid that one of the 47 distinct and irreconcilable conspiracy theories will get too close to the Dark Truth? Really, ya think?

How, in your apparently CT-oriented philosophy, does the danger of "compromising national security by exposing sensitive intelligence operations and sources" inevitably equate to "continuing the JFKA cover-up"? Is it not likely that the perceived danger has precisely nothing to do with the JFKA?

I am perhaps just in love with my own theory, but I truly believe the goofs comprising the CT community would be far more likely candidates for being disinformation agents than my fellow Lone Nutters. There are parallels for this in the UFO community, where certain researchers stumbled upon what actually were military operations and were subsequently led down a garden path that left them looking as nutty as any Harvey & Lee fan. It wasn't because they were "too close to the truth about the Alien Presence," as the UFO True Believers imagined, but because they were too close to matters of genuine military secrecy.

[Jake Maxwell]

It makes sense to you, does it, that the CIA does this by populating obscure internet forums with LN trolls who feverishly attack Conspiracy Factoids as though they were playing Whack-a-Mole because - what? - the CIA is afraid that one of the 47 distinct and irreconcilable conspiracy theories will get too close to the Dark Truth? Really, ya think?

How, in your apparently CT-oriented philosophy, does the danger of "compromising national security by exposing sensitive intelligence operations and sources" inevitably equate to "continuing the JFKA cover-up"? Is it not likely that the perceived danger has precisely nothing to do with the JFKA?

I am perhaps just in love with my own theory, but I truly believe the goofs comprising the CT community would be far more likely candidates for being disinformation agents than my fellow Lone Nutters. There are parallels for this in the UFO community, where certain researchers stumbled upon what actually were military operations and were subsequently led down a garden path that left them looking as nutty as any Harvey & Lee fan. It wasn't because they were "too close to the truth about the Alien Presence," as the UFO True Believers imagined, but because they were too close to matters of genuine military secrecy.

I'm not in love with any theory, as you say you are... I'm in love with the truth of the matter... and if we learned anything from the last presidency, it's that government officials, elected and appointed, will lie, deceive, obfuscate and pardon... in order to keep themselves, friends and family from being investigated... and to keep the truth from coming out...

[Richard Smith]

Anyone who rules out of hand CIA or other government operatives from trying to influence the US public, doesn't know much about what the CIA has done in other countries over the decades... Israel, Canada, Russia, China, et al., have probably learned a few things from our agencies!

Why would anyone from the US government care about the JFK assassination over 60 years later?
Perhaps we should ask the CIA officials and Mike Pompeo and others in government who suggested to Trump he should not release all the documents related to the assassination!

"During President Donald Trump's first term, Mike Pompeo, then serving as CIA Director, advised against the full release of certain John F. Kennedy assassination files. Pompeo expressed concerns that releasing these documents could compromise national security by exposing sensitive intelligence operations and sources."

Yeah, the cover-up continues!

I don't doubt that the US and many other countries have programs designed to influence public opinion.  I just don't see any incentive, however, to do so in the JFK assassination context 6o years after the fact. Why bother?  What difference does it make to anyone in government today what anyone believes happened in 1963?  Most of them weren't even born.  Intelligence agencies are notoriously secretive by nature.  They don't want to reveal what they had for lunch today.  The JFK files could have information relating to sources and methods that I can understand that they might not want to reveal even after 60 years.  It's not because they are engaged in an endless JFK conspiracy cover up, though.