Buell Wesley Frazier

[Michael Capasse]

There is nothing he could do to that rifle to make it look like curtain rods.

Mr. CADIGAN (FBI). "There were no marks on this bag that I could say were caused by that rifle or any other rifle or any other given instrument."

[Richard Smith]

The problem with that is West - it appears he never leaves his station from the moment he arrives and all through the lunch break.
I don't know how long it would take to make such a bag. I reckon it would take me ten minutes at least but I've never tried to make one so I'm guessing.
Why even make one, he had a perfectly good homemade rifle bag back at the Paine house.
Why not make it to carry a 40" assembled rifle instead of a 36" disassembled rifle. It hardly disguises the length of a rifle as Oswald actually bought a 36" rifle. It's a pity Oswald didn't get the rifle he actually bought as the bag would've been the perfect length.

Maybe there was a window of opportunity on the Thursday lunch break.

Presumably he left at the end of the day and went home.  He did not literally "never leave" his station.  My recollection is that he was mostly asked about 11.22 not the days preceding the assassination.  Do we  even know if he went to work on those days leading up to the assassination?  Regardless, Oswald could have made the bag on any day from the first day he started at the TSBD.  He didn't necessarily make it that week - although I think that is most likely.  His prints are on the bag.  It is connected to him.  It was found next to the SN boxes with his prints on the same floor as his rifle. 

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Presumably he left at the end of the day and went home.  He did not literally "never leave" his station.  My recollection is that he was mostly asked about 11.22 not the days preceding the assassination.  Do we  even know if he went to work on those days leading up to the assassination?  Regardless, Oswald could have made the bag on any day from the first day he started at the TSBD.  He didn't necessarily make it that week - although I think that is most likely.  His prints are on the bag.  It is connected to him.  It was found next to the SN boxes with his prints on the same floor as his rifle.

Roy Lewis, one of the manual workers at the TSBD: "We had order pickers and packers. Order pickers would get their assignment orders, take a clipboard, go up on the floors to pick their orders then bring them back down....The packers would then pack them, wrap them, and ship them out. Occasionally the packers would go up to the upper floors if they had a mistake or if they couldn't find us, in which case they would go up and straighten it out themselves.

Mr. BELIN - Are you the only one that wraps the books for mailing, or wraps them up for mailing?
Mr. WEST - Well, no, sir; I am not the only one, but mine is that way just every day.

So Oswald took the paper from another machine/packer? Who had left the machine to check on an order. I would suggest that sometimes West had to check an order and left. He said he never did but is that possible?

[Richard Smith]

Roy Lewis, one of the manual workers at the TSBD: "We had order pickers and packers. Order pickers would get their assignment orders, take a clipboard, go up on the floors to pick their orders then bring them back down....The packers would then pack them, wrap them, and ship them out. Occasionally the packers would go up to the upper floors if they had a mistake or if they couldn't find us, in which case they would go up and straighten it out themselves.

Mr. BELIN - Are you the only one that wraps the books for mailing, or wraps them up for mailing?
Mr. WEST - Well, no, sir; I am not the only one, but mine is that way just every day.

So Oswald took the paper from another machine/packer? Who had left the machine to check on an order. I would suggest that sometimes West had to check an order and left. He said he never did but is that possible?

Yes, there would have been opportunities including days West might have taken off from work for Oswald to obtain the materials to make the bag.  The literal interpretation that he never left his station is not realistic to preclude Oswald from having done so.  My recollection is that West wasn't have asked if he was at work on Mon-Thursday that week but I haven't read his testimony in a long while.   Most of the questions were about 11.22.  Maybe there is some type of payroll sheet for that week which would confirm his presence on those days?

[Martin Weidmann]

What makes you think West stayed at his station during lunch breaks?

Also, LHO could have pretended to be wrapping some books at the other end of the table (helping West) and made the bag right under his nose when West wasn’t paying close attention to exactly what LHO was actually doing. Who knows? It appears that LHO found a way to sneak while making it and sneak it out of the TSBD. Not impossible in my opinion.


Why even make one, he had a perfectly good homemade rifle bag back at the Paine house.

My guess is that LHO had noticed the curtain rods that the Paines had stored in the garage that were stored in a similar looking brown bag. The idea for the curtain rods lie and for making a bag out of TSBD wrapping paper could have developed from his having noticed the ones that the Paines already had stored in the garage.


Why not make it to carry a 40" assembled rifle instead of a 36" disassembled rifle.

My guess is that he remembered the length of the rifle that he ordered (from the advertisement). He might not have actually measured the length of the rifle he received. And I am not convinced that he disassembled the rifle to get it all the way inside the bag. He could have left a short section of the muzzle end of the barrel sticking out and just positioned it so it would not be easily seen. Who knows? It really doesn’t matter.

LHO could have pretended to be wrapping some books

Could have?

It appears that LHO found a way to sneak while making it and sneak it out of the TSBD.

Appears? Based on what?

Not impossible in my opinion.

Your opinion?

My guess is that LHO had noticed the curtain rods that the Paines had stored in the garage

Your guess?

The idea for the curtain rods lie and for making a bag out of TSBD wrapping paper could have developed from his having noticed the ones that the Paines already had stored in the garage.

Could have developed?

My guess is that he remembered the length of the rifle that he ordered

Your guess?

He could have left a short section of the muzzle end of the barrel sticking out and just positioned it so it would not be easily seen.

Could have?

You haven't thought this through. Oswals leaves the muzzle end of the barrel sticking out, puts the package on Frazier's backseat and when Frazier looks at the package and asks him about it, he just says "curtain rods".

Really?

[Charles Collins]

LHO could have pretended to be wrapping some books

Could have?

It appears that LHO found a way to sneak while making it and sneak it out of the TSBD.

Appears? Based on what?

Not impossible in my opinion.

Your opinion?

My guess is that LHO had noticed the curtain rods that the Paines had stored in the garage

Your guess?

The idea for the curtain rods lie and for making a bag out of TSBD wrapping paper could have developed from his having noticed the ones that the Paines already had stored in the garage.

Could have developed?

My guess is that he remembered the length of the rifle that he ordered

Your guess?

He could have left a short section of the muzzle end of the barrel sticking out and just positioned it so it would not be easily seen.

Could have?

You haven't thought this through. Oswals leaves the muzzle end of the barrel sticking out, puts the package on Frazier's backseat and when Frazier looks at the package and asks him about it, he just says "curtain rods".

Really?

Yes really. These are only my opinions on possibilities. You are not required to agree.

Set the package on the back seat so that the end of the barrel is  away from Frazier and towards the seat back and not obvious from Frazier’s point of view. Then hurry in to the TSBD with it (well ahead of Frazier) with the end of the barrel in front of him so that Frazier cannot see the end of the barrel. Or perhaps he had something else to cover that small section. It really doesn’t matter how he did it. Taking the gun apart is one possibility, I am just not convinced that he actually did that. That’s all. You are free to disagree.

[Martin Weidmann]

Yes really. These are only my opinions on possibilities. You are not required to agree.

Set the package on the back seat so that the end of the barrel is  away from Frazier and towards the seat back and not obvious from Frazier’s point of view. Then hurry in to the TSBD with it (well ahead of Frazier) with the end of the barrel in front of him so that Frazier cannot see the end of the barrel. Or perhaps he had something else to cover that small section. It really doesn’t matter how he did it. Taking the gun apart is one possibility, I am just not convinced that he actually did that. That’s all. You are free to disagree.

Isn't it nice that you can make up your own story?

[Charles Collins]

Isn't it nice that you can make up your own story?

All I am saying is there are other possibilities. Anyone who thinks that LHO had to have taken the rifle apart just hasn’t thought about the other possibilities. I am not saying that I know exactly how he did these things. I am only pointing out some other possibilities.