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Offline Jack Nessan

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« Reply #392 on: February 22, 2025, 03:33:53 PM »
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Thanks for the correction of both hands...but unfortunately,

"The rifle was sent to the FBI laboratory, where Sebastian Latona found that “there was nothing visible in the way of any latent prints on there” (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.4, p.3). Latona applied silver nitrate to the bag, and discovered two partial prints that were matched to records of Oswald’s prints (ibid., p.6):

    a part of a right palm print (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.17, p.286 [Commission Exhibit 632]);
    and a part of a left index fingerprint (ibid., p.287 [Commission Exhibit 633]).

Although the bag, or at least the paper that was used to make the bag, appears to have come into contact with Oswald’s hands at some point, the fingerprint and palm print evidence was insufficient to prove that Oswald had carried the bag in the manner described by Randle and Frazier, or that he had assembled the bag by hand."

http://22november1963.org.uk/tsbd-sixth-floor-paper-bag-genuine

The bag is being held in the fashion described by Linnie Mae. The right hand grasping the barrel of the rifle.  The person who wrote the article seems to think the bag was being held vertical with one hand alone. That is not what she describes and who would carry anything in that manner. The Warren Commission could have done a better job of getting her to describe how it was exactly being held. Buell having it cupped in his hand and jammed into his armpit, no matter what anyone could be carrying does not even remotely seem plausible.

Linnie Mae even gets the length right with 3 feet 6 inches.

It is like Buell is talking about a whole other bag or simply “I never paid attention” is correct.

Mr. LATONA. The palm lay in this fashion here.
Mr. EISENBERG. You are putting your right hand on the paper so that the fingers are pointing in the same direction as the arrow A?
Mr. LATONA. That's right.
Mr. EISENBERG. And it is at approximately right angles to the paper bag?
Mr. LATONA. That's right.

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« Reply #392 on: February 22, 2025, 03:33:53 PM »


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« Reply #393 on: February 22, 2025, 07:02:30 PM »
The bag is being held in the fashion described by Linnie Mae. The right hand grasping the barrel of the rifle.  The person who wrote the article seems to think the bag was being held vertical with one hand alone. That is not what she describes and who would carry anything in that manner. The Warren Commission could have done a better job of getting her to describe how it was exactly being held. Buell having it cupped in his hand and jammed into his armpit, no matter what anyone could be carrying does not even remotely seem plausible.

Linnie Mae even gets the length right with 3 feet 6 inches.

It is like Buell is talking about a whole other bag or simply “I never paid attention” is correct.

Mr. LATONA. The palm lay in this fashion here.
Mr. EISENBERG. You are putting your right hand on the paper so that the fingers are pointing in the same direction as the arrow A?
Mr. LATONA. That's right.
Mr. EISENBERG. And it is at approximately right angles to the paper bag?
Mr. LATONA. That's right.

She also said 28 inches.
Cherry picking conflicting statements isn't conclusive proof of anything.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2025, 07:02:56 PM by Michael Capasse »

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« Reply #394 on: February 22, 2025, 07:17:52 PM »
Let me get this straight, are you trying to say that the rifle bag which was found in the sniper's nest with Oswald's prints and was an exact fit for Oswald's rifle is somehow not connected with this crime? Really?

"rifle bag".  LOL
"found in the sniper's nest". LOL
"exact fit". LOL
"Oswald's rifle". LOL

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Online Tom Mahon

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« Reply #395 on: February 22, 2025, 07:45:40 PM »
"rifle bag".  LOL
"found in the sniper's nest". LOL
"exact fit". LOL
"Oswald's rifle". LOL

How many bad guys do you figure were involved altogether in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, and the all-important cover up, Iacoletti?

Couple hundred?

Thousands?

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« Reply #396 on: Today at 02:25:11 AM »
How many bad guys do you figure were involved altogether in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, and the all-important cover up, Iacoletti?

Couple hundred?

Thousands?

Stuff like this makes me wonder where the Nutters shop for bait -- smells at least 15 years old.

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Online Tom Mahon

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« Reply #397 on: Today at 02:27:23 AM »
Stuff like this makes me wonder where the Nutters shop for bait -- smells at least 15 years old.

The "Deep State" / "National Security State" killed JFK, right?

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« Reply #398 on: Today at 02:38:52 AM »
Smells at least 15 years old.

At least!

And yet STILL no one can say!

How about you, Tom?

Oodles and gobs, right?

Offline Jack Nessan

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« Reply #399 on: Today at 06:00:08 AM »
She also said 28 inches.
Cherry picking conflicting statements isn't conclusive proof of anything.

The conflicting statement is Linnie Mae's description of LHO holding the bag with her revised estimate of a 27-to-28-inch package.

A 27- or 28-inch-long bag will not work to match Linnie Mae’s description of how LHO carried the rifle. The top of the package where she described him holding it with his right hand, would be slightly above the knee to about mid-thigh with him actually holding it lower, and additionally LHO also held the package with his left hand closer to the bottom of the package. The bottom of the package also was described as being barely above the ground. 

To hold the rifle as Linnie Mae described, LHO would have had to have been bent over at the waist as he walked to the vehicle. The same would be true for Buell’s description of the package being held under the armpit. The bag as estimated is simply not long enough to fit Linnie Mae’s description.

Mrs. RANDLE. He was carrying a package in a sort of a heavy brown bag, heavier than a grocery bag it looked to me. It was about, if I might measure, about this long, I suppose, and he carried it in his right hand, had the top sort of folded down and had a grip like this, and the bottom, he carried it this way, you know, and it almost touched the ground as he carried it.

Mr. BALL. I have one question, Mr. Chief Justice.
You used an expression there, that the bag appeared heavy.
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. You meant that there was some weight appeared to--
Mrs. RANDLE. To the bottom.
Mr. BALL. To the bottom?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes. It tapered like this as he hugged it in his hand. It was more bulky toward the bottom than it was this way.
Mr. BELIN. Toward the top? More bulky toward the bottom than toward the top?
Mrs. RANDLE. That is right.


 

 

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