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Offline Michael Capasse

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So Frazier was interrogated for hours and was threatened with violence and he has no reason to be afraid? WOW!

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He has done nothing wrong. He has no reason to lie.
Be Frazier. "Why do I have to make up a story? I didn't do nothin'."
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Offline Michael Capasse

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« Reply #441 on: Today at 04:37:13 AM »
He didn't pay attention to the bag, but what exactly was Frazier's mistake?

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« Reply #442 on: Today at 04:55:45 AM »
backed up by what? - therefore it was the rifle ? 
U think the way she saw the bag carried is proof it was a rifle? -wow leaps and bounds - but total BS:!!
Any size within arms length can be carried as she saw it - a shorter length is just as accessible - what she saw does not CONFIRM rifle size.
--You make up stuff a lot.

- from her FBI Statement-
"....she had only observed the brown package from her residence window at a distance."
@ Tom Sorensen - thanx for pointing out the 3 foot length was added by FBI Bookout.

You began this posting explaining how LHO never could have carried a package longer than 27 inches. At least you understand a 27 inch package does not match the description of what Linnie Mae saw LHO carrying. It could only be the 42 inches length she originally estimated. If you have convinced yourself that the bag did not contain the rifle LHO bought from Kleins and was matched to the shells, bullet and bullet fragments that killed JFK and was discovered on the 6th floor. So be it, but you have yet to offer anything that even remotely casts doubt on it. In fact, your evasion of the Linnie Mae observation along with numerous attempts to change or alter the subject only serves to prove what is being stated as true. The bag was located on the 6th floor as was the rifle, what other information were you looking for?

Tom Sorenson provided an opinion and nothing else, just background noise. Noticeably, Tom failed, the same as you, to provide any information at all as to how a 27 inch bag could be carried by LHO as described by Linnie Mae.

 

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« Reply #443 on: Today at 05:09:04 AM »
It became very clear, very quickly, Frazier had nothing to do with it and he had no reason to lie about anything.
If you doubt the confession story? - You need to learn the evidence.

 Buell Wesley Frazier: A commute with Oswald, then a harsh interrogation
“I was interrogated and questioned for many, many hours,” Frazier said. “Interrogators would rotate.”

Dallas police Capt. Will Fritz, who was in charge of the homicide department, came into the room with a typed statement. He handed Frazier a pen and demanded he sign it. It was a confession. Frazier refused.

“This was ridiculous,” he said. “Captain Fritz got very red-faced, and he put up his hand to hit me and I put my arm up to block. I told him we’d have a hell of a fight and I would get some good licks in on him. Then he stormed out the door.”

Frazier never saw him again. At around 3 a.m. the next day, police let Frazier go.
https://richmond.com/buell-wesley-frazier-a-commute-with-oswald-then-a-harsh-interrogation/article_a9be7f2e-fb7f-5357-91c9-605df00641f7.html

Is there a point to this other than you do not accept BWF's statement that he was just was not paying attention to LHO and what he was carrying? His estimation of the bag does not fit with her description of the package.

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« Reply #444 on: Today at 05:30:49 AM »
He has done nothing wrong. He has no reason to lie.
Be Frazier. "Why do I have to make up a story? I didn't do nothin'."

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He has done nothing wrong.

I couldn't agree more but being in the wrong place at the wrong time is a big problem.

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He has no reason to lie.

Frazier has every reason to lie, he was extensively interrogated and was threatened with violence, all because he drove the assassin to work and witnessed the rifle bag being carried into the building where the rifle was used. So it's clear that in Frazier's mind the best defence is at least to disassociate himself from the package and the best way is to claim that the bag was too small for a rifle, then simpleton Frazier on the fly invented a cockamamie story, which simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny, because we know Oswald didn't need curtain rods, no curtain rods were found, the bag was found with Oswald's prints and the bag was an exact fit for Oswald's rifle.

Another interesting factoid is another simpleton Dougherty testified that some of the fellows and specifically Shelley saw the bag, but obviously Shelley knew better than to admit that he saw Oswald carry the murder weapon. But poor old Frazier had no choice but to slightly twist and admit what he saw, but the best excuse Frazier could come up with, was to introduce a little white lie.

Mr. BALL - Did you ever see Lee Oswald carry any sort of large package?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I didn't, but some of the fellows said they did.
Mr. BALL - Who said that?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, Bill Shelley, he told me that he thought he saw him carrying a fairly good-sized package.
Mr. BALL - When did Shelley tell you that?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, it was--the day after it happened.

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/doughert.htm

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Be Frazier. "Why do I have to make up a story? I didn't do nothin'."

That's a Freudian slip, if he "didn't do nothin", then he "must have done somethin"! Hahaha!
Seriously though, Frazier was for all intents and purposes as innocent as a new born, but under these extreme circumstances a man will do what a man's gotta do, to protect himself! 

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Online Tom Sorensen

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« Reply #445 on: Today at 07:35:38 AM »
The bag exists.  It was measured.  That's it.

On this rare occasion Richard actually makes sense. 38 inches of red herring. The biggest in this case?

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« Reply #446 on: Today at 07:51:29 AM »
Studebaker knew where it was.



Mr. BALL. Now, did you at any time see any paper sack around there?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes sir.
Mr. BALL. Where?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Storage room there - in, the southeast corner of the building folded.
Mr. BALL. In the southeast corner of the building?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. It was a paper - I don't know what it was.
Mr. BALL. And it was folded, you say?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Where was it with respect to the three boxes of which the top two were Rolling Readers?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Directly east.
Mr. BALL. There is a corner there, isn't it?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes, sir; in the southeast corner.
Mr. BALL. It was in the southeast corner?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. I drew that box in for somebody over at the FBI that said you wanted it. It is in one of those pictures - one of the shots after the duplicate shot.
Mr. BALL. Let's mark this picture "Exhibit F."
(Instrument marked by the reporter as "Studebaker Exhibit F," for identification.)
Mr. BALL. Do you know who took that picture?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. No; I don't.
Mr. BALL. Do you recognize the diagram?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did you draw the diagram?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. I drew a diagram in there for the FBI, somebody from the FBI called me down - I can't think of his name, and he wanted an approximate location of where the paper was found.
Mr. BALL. Does that show the approximate location?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Where you have the dotted lines?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes.
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Mr. BALL. Now, how big was this paper.that you saw - you saw the wrapper - tell me about how big that paper bag was - how long was it?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. It was about, I would say, 3 1/2 to 4 feet long.
Mr. BALL. The paper bag?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes.
Mr. BALL. And how wide was it? Approximately 8 inches.


The bag was photographed leaving the building, the same bag as described by 6 Police Officers.



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ROFL, the photo shows it's not there. Either Studebaker or Day took the photo. They both took multiple shots of the same scene; only the best was entered into evidence. You need to deal with the facts.

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #447 on: Today at 12:33:35 PM »
Tom Sorenson provided an opinion and nothing else, just background noise. Noticeably, Tom failed, the same as you, to provide any information at all as to how a 27 inch bag could be carried by LHO as described by Linnie Mae.

The information I provided is factual. It's on record. You fell flat on your face again.

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« Reply #447 on: Today at 12:33:35 PM »