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[Martin Weidmann]

You do realize that Carolyn Arnold said she saw Oswald in the "first floor" lunchroom and the Domino room was on the ground floor!? DOH!
BTW have you worked out what a "room" is? Hahahahaha!

JohnM

You do realize that Carolyn Arnold said she saw Oswald in the "first floor" lunchroom and the Domino room was on the ground floor!? DOH!

Oh boy.... Baker saw Oswald in in the 2nd floor lunchroom, right?

The Domino room was one floor below that... so what floor is that?

[Tim Nickerson]

I'm not aware of any mishandling of fungible evidence by the DPD.

Of course you are not aware... that's part of the problem

Well then, why not educate me here? What were the fungible items of evidence and how were they mishandled by the DPD?

[Martin Weidmann]

What it tells us is that Carolyn Arnold was not reliable.

But a guy like Brennan was?

[Martin Weidmann]

Well then, why not educate me here? What were the fungible items of evidence and how were they mishandled by the DPD?

Ok, I'll give you two simple examples.

The jacket that was found in a parking lot (described on DPD radio as being white) was handled, according to Captain Westbrook by himself and two unidentified officers. So, how come there are markings of seven officers on the grey jacket now in evidence?

Another example is the paper bag and the blanket. The claim is that fibers of the blanket were found in the paper bag, but there is photographic evidence that shows the blanket and the bag lying next to eachother. One is a DPD photo showing the items before they were sent to Washington and the other was taken in the FBI lab showing the two items lying next to eachother.

[John Mytton]

You do realize that Carolyn Arnold said she saw Oswald in the "first floor" lunchroom and the Domino room was on the ground floor!? DOH!

Oh boy.... Baker saw Oswald in in the 2nd floor lunchroom, right?

The Domino room was one floor below that... so what floor is that?

Focus Martin, my response was your incorrect assumption that Arnold's sighting of Oswald in the first floor lunchroom somehow erroneously "fit with the Norman/Jarman sighting" on the first floor.


 

On Nov 22, 1997, Carolyn Arnold told John Young  that she was 100% positive that Lee Oswald was in the first floor lunchroom at 12.25 that day. He was sitting there calmly eating his lunch.

I didn't know that she told John Young this, but it would fit with the Norman/Jarman sighting which also took place around 12.25. So, perhaps he did have an alibi after all.

JohnM

[Tim Nickerson]

But a guy like Brennan was?

Brennan was much more reliable than her. He identified Oswald in a lineup but declined to say positively that he was the one who he saw firing a rifle from the Southeast window of the sixth floot of the depository. When testifying under oath he explained why he chose not to. Carolyn Arnold told four different stories.

[Martin Weidmann]

Focus Martin, my response was your incorrect assumption that Arnold's sighting of Oswald in the first floor lunchroom somehow erroneously "fit with the Norman/Jarman sighting" on the first floor.


 
JohnM

Oh boy,

If Carolyn Arnold said she saw Oswald in the first floor lunchroom (which is the Domino room) it does fit with the Norman/Jarman sighting" on the first floor, because that's where the shipping department and elevators were.

It was Tim who claimed she said she saw Oswald in the first floor lunchroom.

I haven't taken them from what he said. Although, he did actually say that he was eating his lunch in the first floor lunchroom. On Nov 22, 1997, Carolyn Arnold told John Young  that she was 100% positive that Lee Oswald was in the first floor lunchroom at 12.25 that day. He was sitting there calmly eating his lunch.

I, on the other hand, was very much aware that she had said she had seen him in the second floor lunchroom, just prior to the shooting. And that would fit nicely with Baker seeing him there just after the shooting.

It's so easy to get you rattled! 

[Martin Weidmann]

Brennan was much more reliable than her. He identified Oswald in a lineup but declined to say positively that he was the one who he saw firing a rifle from the Southeast window of the sixth floot of the depository. When testifying under oath he explained why he chose not to. Carolyn Arnold told four different stories.

He identified Oswald in a lineup but declined to say positively that he was the one who he saw firing a rifle from the Southeast window of the sixth floot of the depository.

Exactly. And later he changed his story....

And not only that, he also misrepresented where he was sitting on the wall and he made a false statement about seeing the shooter firing his rifle, when video evidence shows that he was actually looking at the motorcade at that time.

If you call that reliable, there isn't much I can tell you, except that I would have loved to see him testify under oath at a trial and being destroyed by the defense.

Carolyn Arnold told four different stories.

And was never given the opportunity to testify under oath. Go figure!