Prayer Woman

[Barry Pollard]

  Based on??? Divination?

Why not see what the people that took and put together the clips said about the time?
 

Because I'd rather go with a researcher's opinion that's based on all the evidence available rather than someone's memory.
Also what Alan gave us, around 1PM, just for the mention of a firetruck coming their way seems to put that "several minutes after the shooting" to sleep, wouldn't you agree?
How long has the truck been there, how long would it stay there? Other evidence shows it on Houston with, IIRC, the crowds now tied off(A Murray or Allen still), was that before or after this footage?
What's the real source of that "several minutes after" quote anyway? Detectives would want to know, Trask is not perfect but his observation based opinions are often interesting.
Looks to me like the traffic down Elm has been diverted by this time, find out what time that happened and perhaps you'll get another clue.

No one is going to have Oswald there after 1PM but PM could be stil be hanging around, if it's not Lee.

[Barry Pollard]

Only from above, Barry---------------his body being turned southwest

Just checking ty and I tend to agree.
If correct, then a PM on the landing would be hit by twice the shadow that Frazier was receiving both from the wall and the ceiling.
Look at Darnell with just that in mind and like me one might find it even harder to put him higher than the top step.

[Jerry Freeman]

Now forgive me, Jerry, while I return to the much more minor question of where LHO was at the time of the shooting that consumed the life of President Kennedy. 

Well...you do that & good luck with all that.
Can you PM me when you find out?
 

[Barry Pollard]

Were there not "multiple" occupants of the entrance area after the assassination?
Were there not "hundreds" by the Texas School Book Depository?
Are you saying that LeeOswald would have gone unnoticed in the front lobby or while exiting the building, by anyone?[/color][/size]

Were there not "multiple" occupants of the entrance area after the assassination most of whom were completely distracted to what was happening in the street, before, during and after the parade?
Were there not "hundreds" by the Texas School Book Depository none of whom knew or cared who LHO was?
Are you saying that a man unknown to 99% of these same people would have gone unnoticed in the front lobby or while exiting the building, by anyone? See above, the guy in the Gorilla suit experiment and real research into the realiability of witness observations..

[Alan Ford]

[Alan Ford]

Here's 'Prayer Woman's face' in context! (Credit: Sandy Larsen )



'She' is at about the same height as Lower Lovelady.

Problem!

This means that 'Prayer Woman With A Face' is a head lower than... Prayer Man!



Obvious Solution!

The 'face' is in fact Prayer Man's neck & chin.

[Alan Ford]

Well...you do that & good luck with all that.
Can you PM me when you find out?

Sure will, Jerry, but only if you promise to PM me first if you come up with a viable name for your Prayer Woman! 

Adams, Victoria Elizabeth
Aiken, Haddon Spurgeon 
Arce, Danny Garcia
Arnold, Carolyn (R.E.)
Barnum, Virginia H.
Berry, Jane
Burns, Doris Fay
Calvery, Gloria
Campbell, Ochus Virgil
Case, Edna
Cason, Jack Charles
Caster, Warren
Clay, Billie P. (Mrs Herman N.)
Davis, Avery (Mrs Charles Thomas Davis)
Davis, Mrs. Joseph A. (Vickie)
Dickerson, Mary Sue
Dorman, Elsie
Dougherty, Jack Edwin
Dragoo, Betty Jean
Elerson, Sandra Sue (Mrs Ronald G.)
Foster, Betty Alice
Frazier, Buell Wesley
Garner, Dorothy Ann
Givens, Charles Douglas
Hendrix, Georgia Ruth
Hicks, Karan (Mrs James Daniel)
Hine, Geneva L.
Holt, Gloria Jeannie
Hopson, Yola D.
Hughes, Carol
Jacob, Stella
Jarman, James Earl "Junior"
Johnson, Judy Marie
Jones, Carl Edward
Jones, Spaulden Earnest
Junker, Herbert L.
Kaiser, Frankie 
Kounas, Dolores Arlene
Lawrence, Patricia Ann
Lewis, Roy Edward
Lovelady, Billy Nolan
Lovelady, Dottie
McCulley, Judith Louise
Molina, Joe R.
Nelson, Ruth Smith
Nelson, Sharon
Norman, Harold Dean
Palmer, Helen L.
Parker, Roberta
Piper, Eddie
Rachley, Virgie (Mrs Donald Baker)
Reed, Carol
Reed, Martha
Reese, Madie Belle
Reid, Mrs. Robert A.
Richey, Bonnie
Sanders, Pauline
Shelley, William H.
Shields, Edward
Smith, Gordon
Springer, Pearl
Stansbery, Joyce Maurine
Stanton, Sarah D.
Styles, Sandra K.
Thornton, Betty Jean
Truly, Roy Sansom
Viles, Lloyd R.
West, Troy Eugene
Westbrook, Karen
Wester, Franklin Emmett
Whatley, Vida Lee
Whitaker, Lucy (Lupe)
Williams, Bonnie Ray
Williams, Mary Lee
Williams, Otis Neville
Wilson, Steven F.

[Jerry Freeman]

Sure will, Jerry, but only if you promise to PM me first if you come up with a viable name for your Prayer Woman...

 Has anybody/everybody decided on a name for the old lady holding on to her bag with both hands?
 If so...there you go.