Prayer Woman

[Walt Cakebread]

Now that the dust has settled, friends, let's take stock!

The revelation that Agent Hosty heard Mr Oswald tell Captain Fritz, in the first interrogation session, that he
---------------bought a coke in the 2nd fl lunchroom before the motorcade
---------------"went outside to watch P. Parade"
has met with mixed reaction.

On the one side!
Those who cling to kooky theories, e.g.
-----------the Warren Gullibles
-----------the Two!Oswalds!in!the!Building! loons
and those stuck-in-the-mud CTers who consider the 2nd fl lunchroom incident involving Officer Baker to be the single most sacrosanct piece in the puzzle.
These sorry individuals have all responded to the Hosty document with fury, disbelief and absurdly tortured arguments.
They resent and fear the accuracy with which the contents of the Hosty document were predicted by the Prayer Man advocates. Deep down they must know that they have gotten this whole thing horribly wrong.

On the other side!
All those who genuinely want to know the truth and who took one look at the Hosty document and quietly said, "Hmmm, now that's interesting."
These reasonable individuals have met the new revelation without hostility, denial or cognitive dissonance. They understand the significance of what has just happened.
Oswald Out Front can no longer be dismissed as a fringe theory. It's Mr Oswald's own counter-claim to the absurd Warren Report story. As such it deserves to be taken very seriously indeed.

Interesting days! 

The revelation that Agent Hosty heard Mr Oswald tell Captain Fritz, in the first interrogation session, that he
---------------bought a coke in the 2nd fl lunchroom before the motorcade

Nope....The coke issue came up in the SECOND interrogation session....And Hosty wasn't even there.....

[John Iacoletti]

     Are you claiming there were 2 Oswalds?

Yes, yes he is....

[Walt Cakebread]

     Are you claiming there were 2 Oswalds?

Psssst, Royell....  Yes that's what he's saying, but cut him a little slack....cuz he can't help it if he's a couple of french fries short of a complete happy meal......

[Alan Ford]

Friends, it is extremely important that we understand what exactly the 'Fritz notes' are
----------------and what they are not!

They are ALL written by Captain Fritz, but only in the sense that he physically wrote these things down onto paper. Their content, however, was not originated by him!

How so?

With the exception of the all-important Page 1, 'Fritz's notes' display a point-for-point correspondence with the official typed interrogation reports of Agent Bookhout.
Another way of saying this:
They DERIVE entirely from Agent Bookhout's official interrogation reports.
They most certainly are NOT contemporaneous notes, nor even notes written from personal recall!
As such, they are pretty useless from an evidentiary point of view. 

But what----------I hear you ask----------about the all-important Page 1?!?

It is, I am sorry to say, a less straightforward affair altogether

It is not a sequence of notes taken linearly from either the first official interrogation report CO-SIGNED by Agents Bookhout and Hosty or the second official interrogation report SIGNED ONLY by Agent Bookhout.

Now!

Kindly note the two items brightly boxed below:



They offer important clues as to the circumstances of the notes' inditing.

Clue #1! 'B.O.': Captain Fritz, when he wrote this, clearly did not have Agent Bookhout's name in front of him on a written document. He was hearing 'Book-out' and scribbling a phonetic shorthand! (At some point after this he would get it right: 'Bookhout', he adds in.)

Clue #2! 'wrighting': Captain Fritz, when he wrote this, clearly did not have a written text prepared by a well-educated FBI agent in front of him. He was hearing 'writing' and------being a hick!-------inditing the letters w-r-i-g-h-t-i-n-g.

My Solution!

Captain Fritz----------on this page as well as on the other pages-----------is taking notes as he listens to an interrogation report that has been recorded onto dictaphone.

Problem!

Although the notes Captain Fritz is taking on this page as he listens contain elements from both the first official interrogation report CO-SIGNED by Agents Bookhout and Hosty and the second official interrogation report SIGNED ONLY by Agent Bookhout, the scribbled notes' contents cannot fully be explained as a derivative of these two official reports!

Question!

What exactly is the dictated document Captain Fritz is listening to?

 

[Walt Cakebread]

Friends, it is extremely important that we understand what exactly the 'Fritz notes' are
----------------and what they are not!

They are ALL written by Captain Fritz, but only in the sense that he physically wrote these things down onto paper. Their content, however, was not originated by him!

How so?

With the exception of the all-important Page 1, 'Fritz's notes' display a point-for-point correspondence with the official typed interrogation reports of Agent Bookhout.
Another way of saying this:
They DERIVE entirely from Agent Bookhout's official interrogation reports.
They most certainly are NOT contemporaneous notes, nor even notes written from personal recall!
As such, they are pretty useless from an evidentiary point of view. 

But what----------I hear you ask----------about the all-important Page 1?!?

It is, I am sorry to say, a less straightforward affair altogether

It is not a sequence of notes taken linearly from either the first official interrogation report CO-SIGNED by Agents Bookhout and Hosty or the second official interrogation report SIGNED ONLY by Agent Bookhout.

Now!

Kindly note the two items brightly boxed below:



They offer important clues as to the circumstances of the notes' inditing.

Clue #1! 'B.O.': Captain Fritz, when he wrote this, clearly did not have Agent Bookhout's name in front of him on a written document. He was hearing 'Book-out' and scribbling a phonetic shorthand! (At some point after this he would get it right: 'Bookhout', he adds in.)

Clue #2! 'wrighting': Captain Fritz, when he wrote this, clearly did not have a written text prepared by a well-educated FBI agent in front of him. He was hearing 'writing' and------being a hick!-------inditing the letters w-r-i-g-h-t-i-n-g.

My Solution!

Captain Fritz----------on this page as well as on the other pages-----------is taking notes as he listens to an interrogation report that has been recorded onto dictaphone.

Problem!

Although the notes Captain Fritz is taking on this page as he listens contain elements from both the first official interrogation report CO-SIGNED by Agents Bookhout and Hosty and the second official interrogation report SIGNED ONLY by Agent Bookhout, the scribbled notes' contents cannot fully be explained as a derivative of these two official reports!

Question!

What exactly is the dictated document Captain Fritz is listening to?

 

What exactly is the dictated document Captain Fritz is listening to?

The "dictated Document" was called a Lee Oswald original.....

I believe that you're right in saying that Fritz enter Bookhout's name as "B.O. because that's what his ears heard Book Out.....but maybe Agent Bookhout hadn't showered....Who knows?   

I sincerely wish that you'd get your reasoning apparatus wired right....  You could be a real asset .....

[Alan Ford]

What exactly is the dictated document Captain Fritz is listening to?

 

Now!



3:15 p.m.: this is an important annotation, friends!

Captain Fritz's first interrogation of Mr Oswald did not begin at 3:15 p.m., but 3:15 p.m. is the time when Agents Bookhout & Hosty entered the room!

"When the Agents entered the interview room at 3:15 p. m., Captain Fritz had been previously interviewing Lee Harvey Oswald for an undetermined period of time." (Bookhout/Hosty Interrogation Report, dictated 11/23).

The 3:15 p.m. annotation alone proves that Captain Fritz-----in 'his' notes------is working from some record of the interrogation prepared by either Agent Bookhout, Agent Hosty, or both men!
Otherwise Captain Fritz would have timestamped the start of the interrogation to an earlier time!

 
 

[Alan Ford]

The 3:15 p.m. annotation alone proves that Captain Fritz-----in 'his' notes------is working from some record of the interrogation prepared by either Agent Bookhout, Agent Hosty, or both men!
Otherwise Captain Fritz would have timestamped the start of the interrogation to an earlier time!

 

Now!

It is obvious that the elements here underlined in green-----------



------------closely match the full body of Agent Bookhout's SOLO report (dictated 11/25):

Oswald stated that he did not own any rifle. He advised that he saw a rifle day before yesterday at the Texas School Book Depository which Mr. truly and two other gentlemen had in their possession and were looking at.

Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca-cola form the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. Mr. Truly was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employees lunch room. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill Shelly, and thereafter went home. He stated that he left work because, in his opinion, based upon remarks of Bill Shelly, he did not believe that there was going to be anymore work that day due to the confusion in the building.. He stated after arriving at his residence, then he went to a movie where he was subsequently apprehended by the Dallas Police Department.

Oswald stated that his hours of work at the Texas School Book Depository are from 8 a.m. to 4:45 p.m., but that he is not required to punch a time clock. his usual place of work in the building is on the first floor; however, he frequently is required to go to the fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh floors of the building in order to get books and this was true on November 22, 1963, and he had been on all of the floors in the performance of his duties on November 22, 1963.

 

[Walt Cakebread]

Now!

It is obvious that the elements here underlined in green-----------



------------closely match the full body of Agent Bookhout's SOLO report (dictated 11/25):

Oswald stated that he did not own any rifle. He advised that he saw a rifle day before yesterday at the Texas School Book Depository which Mr. truly and two other gentlemen had in their possession and were looking at.

Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca-cola form the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. Mr. Truly was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employees lunch room. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill Shelly, and thereafter went home. He stated that he left work because, in his opinion, based upon remarks of Bill Shelly, he did not believe that there was going to be anymore work that day due to the confusion in the building.. He stated after arriving at his residence, then he went to a movie where he was subsequently apprehended by the Dallas Police Department.

Oswald stated that his hours of work at the Texas School Book Depository are from 8 a.m. to 4:45 p.m., but that he is not required to punch a time clock. his usual place of work in the building is on the first floor; however, he frequently is required to go to the fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh floors of the building in order to get books and this was true on November 22, 1963, and he had been on all of the floors in the performance of his duties on November 22, 1963.

 

He advised that he saw a rifle day before yesterday at the Texas School Book Depository which Mr. truly and two other gentlemen had in their possession and were looking at.

No.... He did NOT say that he saw "A" rifle (singular)...He said that he saw "Rifles"..  Mr Truly had ( this) rifle and two other rifles day before yesterday in Mr Truly's office.