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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #176 on: September 24, 2019, 04:10:18 PM »
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So why does it matter that they both arrived on the same day?  And Marina's limited understanding of English somehow precludes her from recognizing a name?   LOL.  In the meantime, we should just ignore the mountain of actual evidence, wacky background, and numerous lies of kooky Oswald to focus on nonsense like that.
Can someone actually be this numb ?::)?

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #177 on: September 24, 2019, 04:37:43 PM »
When first interviewed, Marina stated that she had never heard of the name 'Hidell'. However, by the time she testified, she said that she had heard it on Lee's radio conversation with Carlos Bringuier. AFAICT---the name Hidell was not mentioned on that debate and besides...I thought Marina didn't speak or understand English as she testified through an interpreter.
   And Marina's limited understanding of English somehow precludes her from recognizing a name?   LOL.  In the meantime, we should just ignore the mountain of actual evidence to focus on nonsense like that. 
Nonsense? >>>For once Smith is correct.
 Further demonstrating that Marina was lying and that Smith doesn't know a 'mountain of evidence' from his backside...here is the transcript for all to srcutinize   http://jfkassassination.net/russ/jfkinfo3/exhibits/stuck3.htm
Not once is the name 'Hidell mentioned. 
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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #178 on: September 24, 2019, 05:03:11 PM »
Nonsense? >>>For once Smith is correct.
 Further demonstrating that Marina was lying and that Smith doesn't know a 'mountain of evidence' from his backside...here is the transcript for all to scutinize   http://jfkassassination.net/russ/jfkinfo3/exhibits/stuck3.htm
Not once is the name 'Hidell mentioned.

I'm still stuck on your bizarre claim that Marina's limited English-skills somehow precluded her from remembering a name.  btw:  What is the Russian translation for "Hidell"? 

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #179 on: September 24, 2019, 05:19:30 PM »
I'm still stuck on your bizarre claim that Marina's limited English-skills somehow precluded her from remembering a name.  btw:  What is the Russian translation for "Hidell"?
If you are stuck...don't blame me. Revise your perception [if that is doable] Go back and read the posts again. I have grown weary of  your childish level of discernment.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #180 on: September 29, 2019, 10:25:20 PM »
So why does it matter that they both arrived on the same day?
Two weapons ...Ordered a month apart...yet conveniently arrives on the very same exact day? The 187 thousandth coincidence.
The nameless postal clerk hands over two guns to Mr Hidell [not your common name at all]
Happens all the time- OK...yeah -sure- right.  ::)

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« Reply #181 on: September 29, 2019, 10:42:25 PM »
The weapons were allegedly picked up at different places:  the rifle at the post office and the revolver at Railway Express.  But there is no evidence of such pickup in either place by Oswald or anybody else.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #182 on: October 01, 2019, 06:28:04 PM »
The weapons were allegedly picked up at different places:  the rifle at the post office and the revolver at Railway Express.  But there is no evidence of such pickup in either place by Oswald or anybody else.
It is not necessary to determine who picked them up but we can draw a reasonable inference that they were probably picked up by Oswald because:

1. He wrote the order - his handwriting was verified by Marina;
2. He carried photo ID in the name of the consignee A. Hidell;
3. He was in possession of guns that are indistinguishable from those shipped shortly after they were mailed  (backyard pictures, Gen. Walker shooting admission, Marina identified rifle, etc.)


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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #183 on: October 01, 2019, 06:50:59 PM »
It is not necessary to determine who picked them up but we can draw a reasonable inference that they were probably picked up by Oswald because:

1. He wrote the order - his handwriting was verified by Marina;
2. He carried photo ID in the name of the consignee A. Hidell;
3. He was in possession of guns that are indistinguishable from those shipped shortly after they were mailed  (backyard pictures, Gen. Walker shooting admission, Marina identified rifle, etc.)

3. He was in possession of guns that are indistinguishable from those shipped shortly after they were mailed 

"indistinguishable".... an excellent choice of a word....    Researchers have been debating this point for decades....   

I believe that Lee ordered a carcano from Klein's Sporting Goods.......after he and De morhenschildt picked it out of a magazine ad.

I'm inclined to agree with those who believe that Lee possessed a Carcano that was very similar to the carcano that was found in the TSBD and the TSBD rifle may? be the same rifle that appears in the BY photo CE 133A ....But there are definite differences ( distinguishable)  between the TSBD carcano and the rifle in Lee's hand's in CE 133A.   

And as to the pistol....  I'm not at all convinced that the pistol he is wearing on his right hip in CE 133A is a S&W model 10.....  IMO the pistol on his hip looks like a western style six shooter.

   

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #183 on: October 01, 2019, 06:50:59 PM »