Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle

[Walt Cakebread]

Walt rushing to the defense of LNers again. Shocker. NOT!

The point is more than one rifle can bear the SAME serial number.  The WC and LNers have said this isn't true. Hoover's memo shows that it is.

Using common sense is defense of LNer's ??

[John Iacoletti]

I was multi-tasking when I wrote that.

I should have said:

However: Lee Harvey Oswald could have taken TAPE from a "new" roll that had yet to be put in the dispenser.  Mystery solved.

If the tape had "marks from the dispenser on it", that proves (beyond a reasonable doubt) that the paper sack was made from materials taken from the TSBD 1st floor wrapping paper/tape dispenser.

This means:

1) Oswald made the paper-sack at the dispenser while no TSBD employee was watching.

2) Oswald somehow manipulated the tape-dispenser so it did not wet the tape when he took some (and paper) intending to make the paper-sack at the Paine's garage on Thursday evening or Friday morning.

3) Oswald "did" remove wet tape from the dispenser; concealed it somewhere; let it dry. He later (at the Paine's garage) wet the tape and used it to make the paper-sack.

4) The Dallas Police constructed the paper-sack to demonstrate how Oswald smuggled the rifle into the TSBD ... and further incriminate him. In this scenario: Dallas police officers smuggled the rifle (Carcano) into the TSBD (before 12:30 pm CST) for the assassin (not Oswald) to use in the murder of JFK.

Why do you assume that it had to either be Oswald or the police?

Assuming that you reject #1, #2 & #3: You need to assign a reason for Dallas Police officers (several) to participate in a plot to murder President John F. Kennedy. I'm assuming you believe they had the "means" and "opportunity". That leaves "motive".

Why would you assume that if the police constructed the bag, it was because they were participating in a plot to  murder Kennedy?

[John Iacoletti]

Or Oswald got to work a little earlier on Thursday and spent a couple of minutes building his rifle bag.

Is there any evidence that Oswald got to work earlier than West on Thursday (or any other day?)

[John Iacoletti]

Remember when I exposed your dirty time manipulating trick, nasty.

Mytton makes an unsubstantiated claim.  What a shocker...

[Ross Lidell]

Why do you assume that it had to either be Oswald or the police?


Why would you assume that if the police constructed the bag, it was because they were participating in a plot to  murder Kennedy?

Colin Crow stated that the paper-sack was made by Day/Studebaker of the Dallas PD. This implied that there was some sort of conspiracy to further incriminate Oswald.

I assumed that "the" paper-sack referred to by Crow was the one that contained Oswald's right palm-print and left index finger-print.

Fabricating evidence an hour or so after the crime would indicate knowledge of the crime before it was carried out.

[John Iacoletti]

Colin Crow stated that the paper-sack was made by Day/Studebaker of the Dallas PD. This implied that there was some sort of conspiracy to further incriminate Oswald.

I assumed that "the" paper-sack referred to by Crow was the one that contained Oswald's right palm-print and left index finger-print.

Fabricating evidence an hour or so after the crime would indicate knowledge of the crime before it was carried out.

You must not have ever read Colin's thread.

[Colin Crow]

Look I really don't care and the old thread and Forum for whatever reason is gone so lets start fresh and try to debate with honour and dignity.

JohnM

Honour

the quality of knowing and doing what is morally right.
"I must as a matter of honour avoid any taint of dishonesty"
synonyms:   integrity, honourableness, honesty, uprightness, ethics, morals, morality, principle, (high) principles, righteousness, rectitude, nobility, high-mindedness, right-mindedness, noble-mindedness;

Respect

due regard for the feelings, wishes, or rights of others.
"young people's lack of respect for their parents"
synonyms:   due regard, consideration, thoughtfulness, attentiveness, politeness, courtesy, civility, deference

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[John Anderson]

Tony, my friend....It was information like yours that had the bastroids worried and caused them to blow up the site.

The fact that they blew up the site is a sure sign that we've got em on the run......

I read 500 or so pages of archives on the old site before it was lost. Most of it made no more sense than your post above.