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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: There was No Roll Call at the TSBD !
« Reply #48 on: April 26, 2018, 03:15:08 PM »
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You still don't get it do you Jack? ALL of that detail was irrelevant - there was ANOTHER human being (of the African American race) on the 6th floor with his head sticking out of the SE window where BRW had eaten his lunch. Forget the minutia - there was a real person in that location - a location we KNOW BRW was at.

I don't know if the WC was just plain stupid or playing obfuscation games (like you are doing) - but it would have been a simple matter to rule BRW in or out as the person Rowland saw.

Why didn't they do this?


You are trying to make a giant leap that Rowland was not fabricating the whole story. There was not a second person in the SN. Specter shows with his questions and Rowlands answers that he made it all up.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: There was No Roll Call at the TSBD !
« Reply #49 on: April 26, 2018, 03:16:28 PM »
What was interesting was that Jarman stated that ALL three of them ate together and ALL three of them went up to the 5th floor together. This did not happen. Why did Jarman do this?

Why did Jarman do this?

Who knows??....    Perhaps Jarman didn't realize the importance of being totally accurate about something so seemingly benign as eating lunch.....

Perhaps the three routinely ate together and he simply included Williams in recalling that lunch period......



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Re: There was No Roll Call at the TSBD !
« Reply #50 on: April 26, 2018, 03:22:11 PM »
Walt,

if BRW was in the SN (SE corner), then Norman and Jarman were DIRECTLY below him on the 5th floor.

Tony.... Jarman and Norman said that they spent a couple of minutes at the WEST end of the fifth floor before going to the east end....

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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: There was No Roll Call at the TSBD !
« Reply #51 on: April 26, 2018, 03:23:41 PM »
Why did Jarman do this?

Who knows??....    Perhaps Jarman didn't realize the importance of being totally accurate about something so seemingly benign as eating lunch.....

Perhaps the three routinely ate together and he simply included Williams in recalling that lunch period......

Both Norman and Jarman claimed in their early December SS interviews that Williams went up,with them on the elevator. Jarman repeated this in early January to the FBI.
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Re: There was No Roll Call at the TSBD !
« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2018, 04:09:43 PM »
BRW found Norman and Jarman in the SE corner of the 5th floor prior to the assassination. This was directly below the SN above. After the shots were fired all three eventually ran to the SW end. They were in a prime position to hear or see anyone coming down form the 6th floor.

No one saw or heard a thing.

Norman, Jarman and Williams were under the SN when the shots were fired. BRW claimed he ate his lunch in front of a closed dirty window - hardly a prime position to view the parade. How then did his lunch appear originally at the SE corner?



Do you believe that Williams would be unable to recall exactly where he was sitting and eating his lunch  "IF???" in fact he ate his lunch on the sixth floor?

There's no doubt in my mind that Williams KNEW precisely where he was at the time he ate his lunch....He was simply unsure of where the manipulators wanted him to say he ate his lunch......

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #53 on: April 26, 2018, 05:14:54 PM »
But we know williams was there, his lunch was noticed there by all police first on the scene. Rowland merely confirms what should have been apparent. Williams was in the SN until about 12.25 or later.

we know williams was there,   (because) his lunch was noticed there by all police first on the scene.

Actually the remnants of someone's lunch does not prove that BRW was there ......However,  I do believe that Williams was on the sixth floor at the same time that a man who had a sniper rifle and was wearing light colored khaki clothing that made him appear to be a deputy sheriff ( Arnold Rowland assumed he was a "security guard)  was there. 

The photos of BRW in the immediate aftermath of the coup d e'tat show Williams as a very worried ( frightened?) young man.   Williams was simply clay in the hands of the authorities..... They could shape and mold him in any manner they felt was necessary.... 

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Re: There was No Roll Call at the TSBD !
« Reply #54 on: April 26, 2018, 10:11:57 PM »
It wasn't quite that benign. Rowland states he seen a person hanging out the window. How would he know how tall that person was how much he weighed.

How would Brennan know?  That question isn't going away.

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« Reply #55 on: April 26, 2018, 10:20:13 PM »
LHO is the most likely candidate- his rifle and pistol

You haven't demonstrated that they were his rifle and pistol.  Or that that rifle and pistol killed anybody.

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matched to the shells and bullets

What "bullets"?  You mean the near pristine bullet allegedly found on an unrelated stretcher at Parkland Hospital?

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, his fingerprints,

His fingerprints where?  On book boxes where he worked getting books out of boxes?

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photos holding the rifle and pistol,

You haven't demonstrated what rifle and pistol appear in the photos.

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shoots Tippit,

You haven't demonstrated that he shot Tippit.

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Shoots at Walker,

You haven't demonstrated that he shot at Walker.

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and caught trying to hide and escape.

You haven't demonstrated that he was trying to hide and escape.

Care to try again?
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