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Offline Steve Howsley

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #144 on: June 30, 2018, 12:27:04 PM »
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... we don't know what Oswald was doing when he was alone in Oak Cliff or New Orleans.

We do know some of what he was doing but details are thin on the ground which is in itself an indication that he wasn't up to much at all. Despite 55 years of inquiries by hundreds of people there is no proof of Oswald being a key player in any organised group. He even had to make up his own group with a membership of one. I guess when it came time to pay his membership dues he'd take a dollar from the right pocket of his trousers and slip it into the left pocket. He was a legend in his own lunchtime but a nobody to most people.

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Offline Ray Mitcham

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« Reply #145 on: June 30, 2018, 12:46:49 PM »
Except from the above.
"as we know, most contend he wasn?t involved in the assassination at all but was framed".
At least the Bug got that part right.
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #146 on: June 30, 2018, 06:33:15 PM »
We do know some of what he was doing but details are thin on the ground which is in itself an indication that he wasn't up to much at all. Despite 55 years of inquiries by hundreds of people there is no proof of Oswald being a key player in any organised group. He even had to make up his own group with a membership of one. I guess when it came time to pay his membership dues he'd take a dollar from the right pocket of his trousers and slip it into the left pocket. He was a legend in his own lunchtime but a nobody to most people.

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #147 on: July 01, 2018, 04:32:11 AM »
We do know some of what he was doing but details are thin on the ground which is in itself an indication that he wasn't up to much at all. Despite 55 years of inquiries by hundreds of people there is no proof of Oswald being a key player in any organised group. He even had to make up his own group with a membership of one. I guess when it came time to pay his membership dues he'd take a dollar from the right pocket of his trousers and slip it into the left pocket. He was a legend in his own lunchtime but a nobody to most people.

We do know some of what he was doing but details are thin on the ground

So now it's only some of the time?

which is in itself an indication that he wasn't up to much at all.

Really? How do you figure, when you don't know what he was doing all of the time? Do you often jump to conclusions for which there is no factual evidence?

Despite 55 years of inquiries by hundreds of people there is no proof of Oswald being a key player in any organised group.


Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence

He even had to make up his own group with a membership of one.

So we are told? but, even if true, what does that actually prove?

I guess when it came time to pay his membership dues he'd take a dollar from the right pocket of his trousers and slip it into the left pocket. He was a legend in his own lunchtime but a nobody to most people.


Something else you've just been told and want to believe, right?


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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #148 on: July 01, 2018, 04:35:14 AM »



21. In a similar vein, if Oswald, as part of a conspiracy, was scheduled to murder the president of the United States, how likely is it that his physical, mental, and emotional immersion in, and preparation for, such an extremely important and dangerous mission was so minimal, and his concern about it so little, that just two or so weeks before the scheduled murder, the main thing on his mind was to go into the local office of the FBI in Dallas and threaten to blow up the building if one of the agents didn?t stop bothering his wife?
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #149 on: July 01, 2018, 05:30:19 AM »


21. In a similar vein, if Oswald, as part of a conspiracy, was scheduled to murder the president of the United States, how likely is it that his physical, mental, and emotional immersion in, and preparation for, such an extremely important and dangerous mission was so minimal, and his concern about it so little, that just two or so weeks before the scheduled murder, the main thing on his mind was to go into the local office of the FBI in Dallas and threaten to blow up the building if one of the agents didn?t stop bothering his wife?
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I wonder how Bugs "knows" that Oswald threatened to blow up the FBI building.... Really?

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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #150 on: July 01, 2018, 06:23:47 AM »
You make the case for why it wasn't Oswald.  :D

He makes the case for Oswald doing it alone.

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #151 on: July 01, 2018, 06:40:25 AM »
I wonder how Bugs "knows" that Oswald threatened to blow up the FBI building.... Really?

Didn't the woman at the front desk at FBI/Dallas say something about that. I recall some sort of controversy about what Oswald actually said to her. Maybe it's not confirmed about any bomb. But even Bugs said he wrote the book as if he were in court, so can anyone blame him for the shotgun approach; just throw everything including speculation at the jury and see what sticks. In the so called 'shotgun fallacy' the ideal situation is to fire all barrels (no matter how silly some things seem to some people), with the goal of getting people to start to think that there's so much to it that it must be true.

Someone once said that trials are not about the truth. They are about who wins the argument.

« Last Edit: July 01, 2018, 07:12:02 AM by Bill Chapman »

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #151 on: July 01, 2018, 06:40:25 AM »