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Offline Steve Howsley

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #168 on: July 04, 2018, 11:10:23 PM »
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So why then did Oswald wait 8 seconds after the limo's turn onto Elm before taking his 1st shot? He had JFK at a full stop, 60 feet in front of him, dead to rights.

A hired gun would have shot JFK right at that point. You've provided another indication that he was a lone nut and not a hired assassin. With the rifle in his hands he surely had one last debate in his mind;

will I, won't I.

Go on Lee, pull the trigger, pull the trigger and it'll all be over.
Peace awaits you, just pull the trigger.
DO IT!!

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #169 on: July 05, 2018, 01:43:23 AM »
A hired gun would have shot JFK right at that point. You've provided another indication that he was a lone nut and not a hired assassin. With the rifle in his hands he surely had one last debate in his mind;

will I, won't I.

Go on Lee, pull the trigger, pull the trigger and it'll all be over.
Peace awaits you, just pull the trigger.
DO IT!!

No hired gun would shoot from the TSBD in the first place. No guaranteed, clear route of escape. Hitmen are not in the business of getting caught.

Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #170 on: July 05, 2018, 01:49:26 AM »
No hired gun would shoot from the TSBD in the first place. No guaranteed, clear route of escape. Hitmen are not in the business of getting caught.

But patsies are.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #171 on: July 05, 2018, 01:57:34 AM »
Not at all. I certainly do not care about the Bugs opinions, which I consider purely a prosecutors brief with no possibility of cross examination of his claims.

His opinion in that case would seem to suggest that he thought it wasn't Oswald who shot the President.

Nonsense. Bug is making the case for Oswald only getting the idea to make an attempt on Kennedy a day or two before the 22nd

Do try to connect the dots, Ray.

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #172 on: July 05, 2018, 02:08:53 AM »
So why then did Oswald wait 8 seconds after the limo's turn onto Elm before taking his 1st shot? He had JFK at a full stop, 60 feet in front of him, dead to rights.


That question can only be correctly answered when you can PROVE what the shooting sequence was and where each shot was fired from.

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #173 on: July 05, 2018, 02:26:34 AM »
Nonsense. Bug is making the case for Oswald only getting the idea to make an attempt on Kennedy a day or two before the 22nd

Do try to connect the dots, Ray.

Only in the mind of an LN are there real dots to be connected.

In the real world all there is, is Bugs making up a fairytale scenario for which (as in most cases) there isn't a shred of evidence....

Connecting dots of speculation leaves you with only one thing: more speculation!

Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #174 on: July 05, 2018, 04:25:59 AM »
So why then did Oswald wait 8 seconds after the limo's turn onto Elm before taking his 1st shot? He had JFK at a full stop, 60 feet in front of him, dead to rights.


That question can only be correctly answered when you can PROVE what the shooting sequence was and where each shot was fired from.

No, I don't have to prove that. You have to find the testimony from at least 1 individual that heard gunshots during the turn onto Elm, which would have been impossible to miss. This missing testimony is proof enough for me. After all, (spoiler alert) I can't prove there is no tooth fairy.

Offline Steve Howsley

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #175 on: July 05, 2018, 05:12:35 AM »
Who the conspirators were and how far up the ladder it went is the debate

No, it's far more basic than that.

CTers can't even agree on how many shots were fired in DP. Even if you think there was a conspiracy there still has to be a finite number of shots. That's not even (at this point) asking from where and by whom. If that simple question can't be answered then the sky is the limit really. That's why many CTers don't want to answer how many shots because it would close doors that they want to remain open in other conspiracy scenarios.

Despite not being prepared to answer that simple question (how many shots) we are expected to accept the body altering theory and there being two Oswald's both mother and son? That is simply absurd.

BTW You'll get no argument from me defending Trump. He is the most dangerous man on the planet today.
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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #175 on: July 05, 2018, 05:12:35 AM »