Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"

[Jack Trojan]

No, it's far more basic than that.

CTers can't even agree on how many shots were fired in DP. Even if you think there was a conspiracy there still has to be a finite number of shots. That's not even (at this point) asking from where and by whom. If that simple question can't be answered then the sky is the limit really. That's why many CTers don't want to answer how many shots because it would close doors that they want to remain open in other conspiracy scenarios.

Despite not being prepared to answer that simple question (how many shots) we are expected to accept the body altering theory to hid shots from behind and there being two Oswald's both mother and son? That is simply absurd.

BTW You'll get no argument from me defending Trump. He is the most dangerous man on the planet today.

Sorry, but the number of shots that were reported (except if any were reported for the turn onto Elm) is irrelevant. Surely the other shooters were either using silencers or waiting for the Turkey Shoot Point so that multiple shots sounded like one. So my answer to your simple question is that you have placed too much weight on counting shots because you have a predilection for Oswald being a lone nut shooter when there isn't a single shred of evidence that he was anything but a patsy.

[Steve Howsley]

Sorry, but the number of shots that were reported (except if any were reported for the turn onto Elm) is irrelevant. Surely the other shooters were either using silencers or waiting for the Turkey Shoot Point so that multiple shots sounded like one. So my answer to your simple question is that you have placed too much weight on counting shots because you have a predilection for Oswald being a lone nut shooter when there isn't a single shred of evidence that he was anything but a patsy.

No point in discussing this any further. When you throw out a line like:

the number of shots that were reported (except if any were reported for the turn onto Elm) is irrelevant

it's time to move on. I knew that you wouldn't have even an approximation of the number of shots but I am surprised at how blas? you are about the events in DP.

[Jack Trojan]

22. Moreover, if Oswald were about to murder the president in two or so weeks, would he do anything at all that had the potential of drawing anyone?s attention to him, particularly the attention of the FBI?
RHVB



JohnM

Hello, was Hoover not running the FBI? And besides, a patsy is supposed to draw attention to themselves.

These are too easy Mytton. Bugliosi's arguments are a train wreck of illogical thinking. You keep putting up 1 strawman of his after another. He would crash and burn trying to convict Oswald these days especially against a competent lawyer, unlike cornpone Gerry Spence. That is if he was still alive. Same results tho.

[Jack Trojan]

No point in discussing this any further. When you throw out a line like:

the number of shots that were reported (except if any were reported for the turn onto Elm) is irrelevant

it's time to move on. I knew that you wouldn't have even an approximation of the number of shots but I am surprised at how blas? you are about the events in DP.

Again, you missed my point. The number of shots that people heard does not necessarily correlate with the number of shots fired for the reasons I posted. It certainly isn't correlated with the number of hulls that were staged by Fritz and Co. in the SN. Hence irrelevant. Otherwise, you tell me what the relevance is.

ps my guess is that at least 6 shots were fired. 1 shot from a frangible bullet darn near blew JFK's head off. Some came from silencers. Some from the Mauser. Some simultaneously from the front, back, and side at the Turkey shoot point, which Greer slowed the limo down for, so he could turn around to watch the Big Event unfold.

[Steve Howsley]

Greer slowed the limo down for, so he could turn around to watch the Big Event unfold.

Yeah he literally had a front row seat.   

or was he one of the shooters? Maybe Greer was the target and took his foot off the gas to throw the guy in the drain off his shot resulting in JFK getting hit by mistake?

Hey, I had no idea it was so easy being a CTer!

[Bill Chapman]

But patsies are.

LOL. Place Oswald behind the limo and then claim JFK was shot from in front of the limo. Great plan.

[Bill Chapman]

Do you learn The Bug's text off by heart, John? Seems you have `a love affair with whatever rubbish he spouted.

Concrete, cited research is definitely seductive. Seems you lot are more hooked on fly-by-night cheap, easy speculation. Fun being a CTer isn't it.

If you have cited information revealing Bug's research into Dirty Harvey's job hunting is erroneous in some manner, by all means feel free to post it.

[Bill Chapman]

No it doesn't, but I understand why a LN would think so?.

... yes, given that an estimated 42 groups, 82 assassins and 214 people have been accused in various conspiracy theories on the assassination.

What... too soon, Martin?