Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"

[Bill Chapman]

Bugliosi's arguments get more and more ridiculous as he goes along.  This is another version of his "I don't believe conspirators would do X, therefore there was no conspiracy".

First of all, just because Oswald was a cheapskate, it doesn't follow that he was poor.  Second of all, if a person really was an undercover agent, he wouldn't be undercover long if he was in the habit of going on spending sprees.  Third of all, we have a witness saying that Oswald came in to look at cars saying that within a few weeks he had some money coming in and would be back.

Yeah, I know.  He was another liar.  They were all liars.

'Money coming in'

File that gem in the 'delusions of grandeur' category
And file you in the 'I believe everything sweet darling little angel Lee says' category.

Oswald: I'm innocent.
Iacoletti: Okay, you can go.

[John Iacoletti]

Yep, like all these inconvenient eyewitnesses and investigators;

Ruth Paine
Michael Paine
Marina Oswald
Davis sister 1
Davis sister 2
Mrs Brock
Benavides
Markham
Postal
Givens
Frazier
Warren
Greer
Holmes
Norman
Kirk
Cadigan
Truly
Brewer
Bledsoe
Brennan
Baker
Humes
Boswell
Callaway
Roberts
McDonald
Day
Fritz
And etc etc, basically everyone else connected with this case whose name wasn't Saint Lee Harvey Oswald, lied profusely.



JohnM

Quote me ever calling all of these people liars.  I'll put up the LN cavalcade of lying/mistaken witnesses against your list any day of the week.

[John Iacoletti]

'Money coming in'

File that gem in the 'delusions of grandeur' category
And file you in the 'I believe everything sweet darling little angel Lee says' category.

uhhh.....Bill....Oswald never said he went and looked at cars.

Oswald: I'm innocent.
Iacoletti: Okay, you can go.

This canard again from basketball gorilla man.  How about you tell the pearly gates joke again?  That one never gets old.

[John Iacoletti]

Fallacious Bugliosi Argument #14

"rifle that Oswald owned and used to murder the president" - LOL

Conspirators always use expensive weapons to commit assassinations.  Look at Booth's derringer or Castro's exploding cigar.

[John Iacoletti]

Fallacious Bugliosi Argument #15.

This is yet another version of "I don't believe conspirators would do X, therefore there was no conspiracy".  Bugliosi seems to have this idealized notion that these conspirators that he has invented are infallible.  Like those Watergate conspirators who didn't do something stupid and get caught.

And by "so easily traceable", he means with an ID nobody ever said anything about until Oswald was dead, and unscientific handwriting "analysis" of a couple of block letters on a photo of a microfilm copy of a 2-inch order coupon.

Oh, yeah, and yellow blobs and moon craters.

[John Iacoletti]

Fallacious Bugliosi Argument #16

Talk about begging the question:  we "know" there wasn't a conspiracy because they would have used a silencer and we know that Oswald did it with the Carcano that "he owned and fired at JFK'.

How many times have we heard from the LN crowd that there was no silencer that would have silenced a high-powered rifle?  I guess Bugliosi should have talked to them.

[Jack Trojan]

16. If, indeed, groups like the CIA, mob, military-industrial complex, or whatever, were behind the assassination, not only would they have made sure their hit man had the best firearm available, but since they wouldn?t want him to be apprehended and questioned, they almost assuredly would have equipped the firearm with a sound suppressor, most commonly known as a silencer. Silencers go all the way back to the turn of the twentieth century, and a firearms expert for the Los Angeles Police Department told me that as of 1963 they were already sophisticated enough to ?substantially diminish the report? of the weapon and to ?alter or disguise the sound,? such as to make it sound like ?the hitting of a pile of wood with a hammer? or ?the operation of machinery.? He said silencers are effective, and shots at Kennedy from a weapon with the best silencer then available ?probably wouldn?t have even been heard above the background noise of the motorcade and crowd? in Dealey Plaza.5
RHVB

Adding to John Iacoletti's Bug fallacies..

Bug Non Sequitur #16: This was not a conspiracy because Oswald used a crap rifle with a wonky scope.

Why would the CIA give the patsy a fancy sniper's rifle with an actual sighted-in scope and silencer if they wanted to portray him as a lone nut assassin that could only afford a $12.95 army surplus bolt action rifle with a grossly misaligned $7 scope?

[Jerry Freeman]

I believe they did use silencers.