Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"

[Jack Trojan]

I believe they did use silencers.

Of course they did. Only the Mauser from the TSBD was allowed to make noise (except for simultaneous shots at the Turkey Shoot Point, which sounded like a single shot). And only 3 noisy shots, otherwise, it wouldn't match the 3 hulls that Fritz staged in the SN. I'm still not sure how Oswald didn't get a single print on the MC's stalk, barrel, scope, mag, ammo and strap when he disassembled/reassembled it in the TSBD. And why would you keep a useless scope on the rifle especially if you were trying to make it fit into a paper bag and you knew you wouldn't be using it anyway?

No, the MC never took a shot because it was already planted in the TSBD by then. They shot some rounds into a swimming pool so they could plant an intact magic bullet and 3 hulls, which could be linked to the MC rifle. Otherwise, the Bug was right that the conspirators would never rely on Oswald with the MC alone to do the job. He was the designated patsy. Every good coup needs one.

[John Iacoletti]

Fallacious Bugliosi Argument #18.

Notice how often Bugliosi says the same thing over and over again, but puts different numbers next to it each time?

"I don't believe conspirators would do X, therefore there was no conspiracy"  ad infinitum

[John Iacoletti]

But how likely is it that with the biggest murder ever coming up on his plate, Oswald (on his own or with the group?s knowledge and consent) would try to murder some other public figure first? (As we know, Oswald attempted to murder Major General Edwin Walker just months earlier, on April 10, 1963.)

Fallacious Bugliosi Argument #20 -- Begging the question again

Typical Bugliosi.  Take something that we don't actually know and stick "As we know" in front of it.

[John Iacoletti]

Fallacious Bugliosi Argument #19

How many times now has he made the "I don't believe a conspiracy would do X, therefore there was no connspiracy" argument?  I've lost count.

[John Iacoletti]

I started out many years ago as someone who loved a good conspiracy but before I was 'sold' I insisted on seeing the 'evidence' stack up. The more I read about the assassination the more (much to my initial disappointment!) I was swayed by the LN evidence.

I'm sure that if you'd care to share what specific "evidence" it was that swayed you, there would be plenty of people to tell you what's wrong with it.

[John Iacoletti]

Didn't the woman at the front desk at FBI/Dallas say something about that. I recall some sort of controversy about what Oswald actually said to her. Maybe it's not confirmed about any bomb. But even Bugs said he wrote the book as if he were in court, so can anyone blame him for the shotgun approach; just throw everything including speculation at the jury and see what sticks. In the so called 'shotgun fallacy' the ideal situation is to fire all barrels (no matter how silly some things seem to some people), with the goal of getting people to start to think that there's so much to it that it must be true.

Someone once said that trials are not about the truth. They are about who wins the argument.

Exactly.  Bugliosi's only tool is lawyer rhetoric, so that's what he goes with.

[Bill Chapman]

Exactly.  Bugliosi's only tool is lawyer rhetoric, so that's what he goes with.

He has said that he wrote the book as if he were at argument in court. Something like that.
Show us one lawyer who doesn't exaggerate.

Or even one CTer...

[John Mytton]

27. If a group like the mob or the CIA was behind Oswald?s assassination of Kennedy, in the period of time leading up to the assassination they (his ?handlers,? per conspiracy lore) would obviously have to be in touch with him. But in a telephone conversation, Mrs. Puckett told me that none of the seventeen tenants of the rooming house in 1963 had their own phone. She said they all shared ?one communal pay phone on the wall in the hall back near the kitchen, and with all of them having only this one phone, it was in use a lot.?67       

Also, Oswald spent every weekend, except one, with his wife and children at the Paine residence in Irving, and missed no days of work at the Book Depository Building. In the evenings we know he went to the nearby washateria on occasion, and went out on the evenings of October 23, a Wednesday, when he attended a speech by General Walker, and October 25, a Friday night when he was in Irving and attended a meeting of the American Civil Liberties Union. But other than this, according to Mrs. Puckett?s mother (Mrs. Johnson) and the housekeeper, Earlene Roberts, in the five weeks prior to the assassination Oswald simply never went out. Mrs. Johnson said that except for watching TV with the other renters sometimes (during which, she said, if they talked to him, he wouldn?t answer), ?I just really never did see that man leave [his] room?95 percent of the time he would sit in his room.?68 Earlene Roberts said, ?He was always home at night?he never went out.?69 And Ruth Paine testified at the trial in London that Oswald was a loner who never had a relationship with anyone other than Marina, and never received or made any calls at her house phone while he was in her home. When I asked her, ?So you?re not aware of any contacts he had with anyone?? she answered, ?No.?70        So it would seem that the biggest murder plot in American history, with the inevitable follow-up conversations, could only have taken place under the following circumstances: Oswald called his mob or CIA contacts from his job at the Book Depository Building, or they called and asked for him. But Roy Truly, the superintendent at the Book Depository, testified before the Warren Commission that there was only one phone (on the first floor) for the employees to use during their lunch hour ?for a minute? and they were ?supposed to ask permission to use the phone.? And Truly said, ?I never remember ever seeing him [Oswald] on the telephone? during work hours.71 Or on the way home from work Oswald got off the bus to call his co-conspirators from a pay phone. Or they called him at the rooming house (Earlene Roberts, the housekeeper, said that Oswald never received any telephone calls),72 or he called them with a bunch of change from the busy communal pay phone on the wall in the hall back near the kitchen of the rooming house.73 Just how likely is any of this?       

Moreover, Arthur Johnson, the landlord at Oswald?s rooming house, told Dallas Morning News reporter Hugh Aynesworth on the afternoon of the assassination that Oswald ?always talked in that foreign language when he talked on the phone.? Whom was he talking to? Roberts, the housekeeper, told Aynesworth that Oswald ?dialed that BL number [Irving, Texas, where Marina was living] a lot.?74 As far as receiving phone calls, the landlady, Mrs. Johnson, like Earlene Roberts, said she didn?t recall Oswald ever receiving a call at the rooming house.7
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