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Offline Matt Grantham

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #104 on: July 03, 2018, 10:23:09 PM »
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It is almost as if Michael had just not cited this


Nov 23 1963
Weitzman FBI Report
Mr. Weitzman described the rifle was found as a 7.65 caliber Mauser action rifle, loads from a five shot clip is locked on the underside of the receiver forward of the trigger guard.
The metal parts of this rifle were of a gun metal color, gray or blue and the rear portion of the bolt was visibly worn.
The wooden portions of this rifle were a dark brown in color and of rough wood apparently having been used or damaged to a considerable extent.
The rifle was equipped with a four power 18 scope of apparent Japanese manufacture. It's also equipped with a thick brown- black leather bandolier type sling

five shot clip
locked on the underside of trigger guard
dark brown in color and of rough wood
rear portion of the stock visibly worn
damaged to a considerable extent
four power 18 scope Japanese make
bandolier type strap


 Either it was a quick glance or it wasn't Every now and then Aristotole gets to peak his head and say "which way"
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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #105 on: July 03, 2018, 11:13:16 PM »
From Rob Caprio

Finally, we have a CIA report dated three days after the assassination identifying the gun as a Mauser. The report is dated November 25, 1963, and it reads as follows:

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The rifle he [Oswald] used was a Mauser which OSWALD had ordered (this is now known by handwriting examination) from Klein's Mail Order House, Chicago, Illinois. He had the rifle sent to a Post Office Box which Lee OSWALD had rented. In the order for the rifle, Oswald used the name Alex HIDELL.

OSWALD also had in his possession at the time of his arrest (after he also killed a Texas policeman) a U.S. Selective Service Card in the name of Alex HIDELL.(CIA Document No. 1367, declassified spring 1976; cited in Fensterwald 443-44. Henry Hurt, Reasonable Doubt (New York: Henry Holt, 1985) pp. 102-03. Evica 23.)

https://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=79544&relPageId=4


 This is just too good  So we are to believe the CIA got both of these details wrong Sometimes it pisses me off that everything is a contradiction or a circle to nowhere in regard to this assassination, but on a rare occasion like this, it is almost entertaining

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #106 on: July 03, 2018, 11:35:04 PM »
It is almost as if Michael had just not sighted this


Nov 23 1963
Weitzman FBI Report
Mr. Weitzman described the rifle was found as a 7.65 caliber Mauser action rifle, loads from a five shot clip is locked on the underside of the receiver forward of the trigger guard.
The metal parts of this rifle were of a gun metal color, gray or blue and the rear portion of the bolt was visibly worn.
The wooden portions of this rifle were a dark brown in color and of rough wood apparently having been used or damaged to a considerable extent.
The rifle was equipped with a four power 18 scope of apparent Japanese manufacture. It's also equipped with a thick brown- black leather bandolier type sling

five shot clip
locked on the underside of trigger guard
dark brown in color and of rough wood
rear portion of the stock visibly worn
damaged to a considerable extent
four power 18 scope Japanese make
bandolier type strap


 Either it was a quick glance or it wasn't Every now and then Aristotole gets to peak his head and say "which way"


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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #107 on: July 03, 2018, 11:41:54 PM »
From Rob Caprio

Finally, we have a CIA report dated three days after the assassination identifying the gun as a Mauser. The report is dated November 25, 1963, and it reads as follows:

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The rifle he [Oswald] used was a Mauser which OSWALD had ordered (this is now known by handwriting examination) from Klein's Mail Order House, Chicago, Illinois. He had the rifle sent to a Post Office Box which Lee OSWALD had rented. In the order for the rifle, Oswald used the name Alex HIDELL.

OSWALD also had in his possession at the time of his arrest (after he also killed a Texas policeman) a U.S. Selective Service Card in the name of Alex HIDELL.(CIA Document No. 1367, declassified spring 1976; cited in Fensterwald 443-44. Henry Hurt, Reasonable Doubt (New York: Henry Holt, 1985) pp. 102-03. Evica 23.)

https://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=79544&relPageId=4


 This is just too good  So we are to believe the CIA got both of these details wrong Sometimes it pisses me off that everything is a contradiction or a circle to nowhere in regard to this assassination, but on a rare occasion like this, it is almost entertaining

Are we to believe that the CIA got the make of the rifle right? Why?

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #108 on: July 03, 2018, 11:50:40 PM »

 If Rather had rather asked about the specific nature of Weizmann's FBI report, I would have been rather impressed  Sorry I just can't resist sometimes, but I hope you get  the point
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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #109 on: July 03, 2018, 11:54:12 PM »
Are we to believe that the CIA got the make of the rifle right? Why?

 Actually the more remarkable point is that they have information regarding the Klein purchase of a Mauser by Oswald imo

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #110 on: July 03, 2018, 11:56:06 PM »
Actually the more remarkable point is that they have information regarding the Klein purchase of a Mauser by Oswald imo

Where is that information and who did they get it from?

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #111 on: July 04, 2018, 12:03:39 AM »
From Rob Caprio

Finally, we have a CIA report dated three days after the assassination identifying the gun as a Mauser. The report is dated November 25, 1963, and it reads as follows:

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The rifle he [Oswald] used was a Mauser which OSWALD had ordered (this is now known by handwriting examination) from Klein's Mail Order House, Chicago, Illinois. He had the rifle sent to a Post Office Box which Lee OSWALD had rented. In the order for the rifle, Oswald used the name Alex HIDELL.

OSWALD also had in his possession at the time of his arrest (after he also killed a Texas policeman) a U.S. Selective Service Card in the name of Alex HIDELL.(CIA Document No. 1367, declassified spring 1976; cited in Fensterwald 443-44. Henry Hurt, Reasonable Doubt (New York: Henry Holt, 1985) pp. 102-03. Evica 23.)

https://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=79544&relPageId=4


 This is just too good  So we are to believe the CIA got both of these details wrong Sometimes it pisses me off that everything is a contradiction or a circle to nowhere in regard to this assassination, but on a rare occasion like this, it is almost entertaining

Whoever typed it up had the assassination on September 22! It's interesting that they used a Spanish-language type writer, and that Oswald's stint in the USMC is translated into Spanish. I would suspect that this document originated at the CIA MXC station. My question would then be, was this something to be given to someone in the Mexican government, or was it maybe something that was originally generated by the Mexicans, and translated into English by MXC?


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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #111 on: July 04, 2018, 12:03:39 AM »