What happened to the Mauser?

[Peter Kleinschmidt]

The clips do not always do what they're supposed to. They sometimes stick and have to be forced out by hand. Oswald's was like that. Being loose/free inside the weapon does not mean that it was free to move side to side enough to rattle around.

Since you allowed yourself to entertain us with your explanation for the missing clip, or the reappearing clip or...why don't we just call it the "magical clip"?( I got the idea from that damn "magical bullet theory", can you believe it?)

Tim, you are exactly right about those uncooperative clips. Clearly, you can not believe a lone gunman with one gun is responsible for JFK'S death, isn't that right?

[Tim Nickerson]

Since you allowed yourself to entertain us with your explanation for the missing clip, or the reappearing clip or...why don't we just call it the "magical clip"?( I got the idea from that damn "magical bullet theory", can you believe it?)

WOW! Brilliant. You can call them the "magical clip" and the "magical bullet theory". I'll stick with what they really are: The brass clip from Oswald's rifle and the single bullet of the single bullet theory. There is nothing magical about either of them.

Tim, you are exactly right about those uncooperative clips. Clearly, you can not believe a lone gunman with one gun is responsible for JFK'S death, isn't that right?

Why would I not believe a lone gunman with one gun was responsible for JFK'S death, when the evidence overwhelmingly establishes that he was?

[Walt Cakebread]

The gun could be used for a prop in a play at best. And if you're saying it was used to kill Kennedy, wait a second. Think of the most outrageous theory you have heard, how about the one where the Limo Driver,  Agent Greer, is the Assasin. As silly as that sounds, it's not as silly as being told it was some Italian gun parts cobbled together then used by LHO.  A reasonable person would not believe either as the truth.

Referring to the Mannlicher Carcano with the serial number c 2766...

The gun could be used for a prop in a play at best.

That's right on the money...And that's what De M and Lee O intended to use it for, when they ordered it from Kleins...

Lee used it in the BY photo CE 133A to make himself appear to be a well armed communist revolutionary in the image of Fidel Castro ( Castro frequently was photographed while holding a rifle) 

And he left it beneath a pile of brush after a bullet was fired through Walker's window...He intended for the police dogs to find the rifle and then the police could easily have traced that unusual rifle to him.....  And when they visited his apartment They would have found the blue note book that was full of information, which included the photos of him holding the carcano, Walker's house, the vicinity of Walker's house, Bus schedules and maps of the area, and probably the note which instructed Marina what she should do if he had been captured or killed.  And of course Lee would have been on his way to Cuba to escape prosecution .

[Peter Kleinschmidt]

WOW! Brilliant. You can call them the "magical clip" and the "magical bullet theory". I'll stick with what they really are: The brass clip from Oswald's rifle and the single bullet of the single bullet theory. There is nothing magical about either of them.

Why would I not believe a lone gunman with one gun was responsible for JFK'S death, when the evidence overwhelmingly establishes that he was?

Too many inconsistencies surrounding the weapon, as far as Oswald whereabouts we all can agree he was in the building and even the at certain locations, but unfortunately, not at precise times except, of course, before and after  Some people believe Oswald + gun +sixth-floor=guilty and some should, but only because the explanation for the crime benefits from Oswald never receiving an opportunity to a defense even in the short period of time between Oswald's arrest and Oswald's death no tape recording or notes of his interrogation. Pretty basic stuff. The case would have been thrown out.  Take Oswald + gun, take any one of your choosing + the Carcano, for that matter, and then replicate the shots fired.  You can't, lying CBS can't, etc. etc. Not even close

[Tim Nickerson]

Too many inconsistencies surrounding the weapon, as far as Oswald whereabouts we all can agree he was in the building and even the at certain locations, but unfortunately, not at precise times except, of course, before and after  Some people believe Oswald + gun +sixth-floor=guilty and some should, but only because the explanation for the crime benefits from Oswald never receiving an opportunity to a defense even in the short period of time between Oswald's arrest and Oswald's death no tape recording or notes of his interrogation. Pretty basic stuff. The case would have been thrown out.  Take Oswald + gun, take any one of your choosing + the Carcano, for that matter, and then replicate the shots fired.  You can't, lying CBS can't, etc. etc. Not even close

What are the inconsistencies surrounding the weapon? As far as replicating the shots, it's easily done.  Three shots in 8.7 seconds with one of them being a direct hit on the target. That target being the head. You say that CBS can't but what do you mean by that? Did they try to replicate the shots and fail to do so? And what exactly were the shots that they were trying to replicate?

[Peter Kleinschmidt]

What are the inconsistencies surrounding the weapon? As far as replicating the shots, it's easily done.  Three shots in 8.7 seconds with one of them being a direct hit on the target. That target being the head. You say that CBS can't but what do you mean by that? Did they try to replicate the shots and fail to do so? And what exactly were the shots that they were trying to replicate?

What do you mean what do I mean?

You know exactly what I mean. One time did a person fire fast enough, once with speed but accuracy was missing and this among several attempts that failed. Of course, you can make the rules up as you go along, it's learned behavior. Why not say Annie Oakley did it? At least it's creative, but to roll over at every turn for some legit evidence which is always followed by tainted or missing evidence?

[Royell Storing]

What are the inconsistencies surrounding the weapon? As far as replicating the shots, it's easily done.  Three shots in 8.7 seconds with one of them being a direct hit on the target. That target being the head. You say that CBS can't but what do you mean by that? Did they try to replicate the shots and fail to do so? And what exactly were the shots that they were trying to replicate?

     "Easily Done" ?? When has anyone, anywhere, at Any point in time actually Replicated the Magic Bullet shot? Even the Hokey JFK Specials have that bullet flying into/bouncing off of the dash board rendering a slug that is beat to hell. 

[Peter Kleinschmidt]

Referring to the Mannlicher Carcano with the serial number c 2766...

The gun could be used for a prop in a play at best.

That's right on the money...And that's what De M and Lee O intended to use it for, when they ordered it from Kleins...

Lee used it in the BY photo CE 133A to make himself appear to be a well armed communist revolutionary in the image of Fidel Castro ( Castro frequently was photographed while holding a rifle) 

And he left it beneath a pile of brush after a bullet was fired through Walker's window...He intended for the police dogs to find the rifle and then the police could easily have traced that unusual rifle to him.....  And when they visited his apartment They would have found the blue note book that was full of information, which included the photos of him holding the carcano, Walker's house, the vicinity of Walker's house, Bus schedules and maps of the area, and probably the note which instructed Marina what she should do if he had been captured or killed.  And of course Lee would have been on his way to Cuba to escape prosecution .

Walt, the whole case is flimsy. I don't have to prove anything because I don't claim to know who did it but you do?