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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Reclaiming Misery aka Reclaiming History
« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2018, 08:22:58 PM »
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Thanks, Steve, for Piper's "lineup" reference.

Piper, however, was talking about the POLICE conducting that "lineup", not Roy Truly or Bill Shelley of the TSBD staff.

I agree.  That's not a roll call.  The police would have been gathering witness names and addresses (something they were supposed to have done in the Texas Theater too) not seeing who was missing.

If there really had been a roll call, wouldn't Truly have remembered it too?  And if there had really been a roll call they would have known that Oswald was not the only one missing.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2018, 08:23:39 PM »
Are you positive that Buell & his sister didn't bs about the size of the bag in a CYA move to lessen the chances of Buell winding up frying as an accomplice?

Now who's calling Frazier a liar?

Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2018, 08:42:42 PM »
Now who's calling Frazier a liar?

I give it a high probability given the circumstances in which Bueller found himself that day. Lying would be the smart move if the bag was seen to be big enough to carry a rifle.
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Reclaiming Misery aka Reclaiming History
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2018, 09:01:17 PM »
I agree.  That's not a roll call.  The police would have been gathering witness names and addresses (something they were supposed to have done in the Texas Theater too) not seeing who was missing.

If there really had been a roll call, wouldn't Truly have remembered it too?  And if there had really been a roll call they would have known that Oswald was not the only one missing.

Dirty Harvey was the only one not missing from the sn at 12:30
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Reclaiming Misery aka Reclaiming History
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2018, 08:35:09 PM »
Isn't it possible that the rifle was not in a complete "disassembled" state...

Isn't it possible there was a conspiracy?

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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Reclaiming Misery aka Reclaiming History
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2018, 08:42:08 PM »
Isn't it possible there was a conspiracy?

Again, what would be the minimal amount of disassembly necessary to fit the MC rifle into the bag?  Would it require a complete disassembly as depicted in that picture or just connecting the barrel to the rifle stock?  This is not a trick question as I have never assembled a MC rifle and am curious as to the answer.  It has implications for the minimum amount of time it would have taken for Oswald to assemble the rifle.

Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2018, 08:49:52 PM »
Isn't it possible there was a conspiracy?

Is it possible that you just avoided answering Richard's question?
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« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2018, 09:13:32 PM »
Again, what would be the minimal amount of disassembly necessary to fit the MC rifle into the bag?  Would it require a complete disassembly as depicted in that picture or just connecting the barrel to the rifle stock?  This is not a trick question as I have never assembled a MC rifle and am curious as to the answer.  It has implications for the minimum amount of time it would have taken for Oswald to assemble the rifle.

Oswald may have loosened the screws (somewhat) the night before, thus speeding up the reassembly

It seems from this disassembly that separating the barrel from the stock is rather easy
By this video, seems he could be finished by step 8-9 re partial disassembly

http://thisoldrifle.com/carcano9138/rifledisassembly/index.asp
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Re: Reclaiming Misery aka Reclaiming History
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2018, 09:13:32 PM »